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KingdomHeartsFan on 19 December 2013
selnor1983 said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

You expect every Nintendo fan to buy a Wii U in its first year of release?


Actually yes. The Wii had no games its last year or so. Unless Ninty fans these days are content with DS.

I guess other factors such as financial instability should not be taken into consideration, its just if your a Nintendo fan you are expected to buy a Wii U right away.  Also the 3DS does have a lot of must own games, idk what your trying to insinuate there.



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TheLastStarFighter on 19 December 2013
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.


I know you take great joy in going on Nintendo threads and taking the negative side, but you're really stretching on this one to the point of being cringe-worthy and laughable.



Seece on 19 December 2013
TheLastStarFighter said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.


I know you take great joy in going on Nintendo threads and taking the negative side, but you're really stretching on this one to the point of being cringe-worthy and laughable.

What point do you disagree with? 10m end of 2014/early 2015? Would you have said the same thing for people saying under 10m end of 2013 a year ago??

Too often people are being shouted down for (now) realistic predictions, rather than optimistically thinking anything is going to cause a boost and reverse the trend, there is zero evidence to support this.



 

TheLastStarFighter on 19 December 2013
selnor1983 said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

You expect every Nintendo fan to buy a Wii U in its first year of release?


Actually yes. The Wii had no games its last year or so. Unless Ninty fans these days are content with DS.

And Wii U had almost no games in its first year of release. Most Wii owners have a PS360 too by now, so there is no rush. Wii U is only now becoming a draw.  Most gamers don't buy any system in its first year. I picked up a PS2 in year 3, a Wii in year 2, a 360 in year 4. Buying at launch is usually a waste.



supernihilist on 19 December 2013
Seece said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.


I know you take great joy in going on Nintendo threads and taking the negative side, but you're really stretching on this one to the point of being cringe-worthy and laughable.

What point do you disagree with? 10m end of 2014/early 2015? Would you have said the same thing for people saying under 10m end of 2013 a year ago??

Too often people are being shouted down for (now) realistic predictions, rather than optimistically thinking anything is going to cause a boost and reverse the trend, there is zero evidence to support this.


I think you are smart enough to know that MK8 and Smash alone will push WiiU this year way beyond this years sales. seriously. MK8 and Smash vs LegoCity, MH3U rehash, Zelda HD and Pikmin is just a massacre.

WIll double this years sales so 6m is my bet. wanna bet real money or smthing?



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Seece on 19 December 2013
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.


I know you take great joy in going on Nintendo threads and taking the negative side, but you're really stretching on this one to the point of being cringe-worthy and laughable.

What point do you disagree with? 10m end of 2014/early 2015? Would you have said the same thing for people saying under 10m end of 2013 a year ago??

Too often people are being shouted down for (now) realistic predictions, rather than optimistically thinking anything is going to cause a boost and reverse the trend, there is zero evidence to support this.


I think you are smart enough to know that MK8 and Smash alone will push WiiU this year way beyond this years sales. seriously. MK8 and Smash vs LegoCity, MH3U rehash, Zelda HD and Pikmin is just a massacre.

WIll double this years sales so 6m is my bet. wanna bet real money or smthing?

I don't bet, especially real money (wtf?) you have your opinion and I have mine, I've already been wrong on WiiU sales twice this year (first thought 8m LTD then 7m!) You also need to take into account the average sales being down YoY. Price cut and Mario are out yet sales are down 50% YoY in the US (with more weeks)

What boosts are you expecting those weeks just out of curiosity?



 

supernihilist on 19 December 2013
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.


I know you take great joy in going on Nintendo threads and taking the negative side, but you're really stretching on this one to the point of being cringe-worthy and laughable.

What point do you disagree with? 10m end of 2014/early 2015? Would you have said the same thing for people saying under 10m end of 2013 a year ago??

Too often people are being shouted down for (now) realistic predictions, rather than optimistically thinking anything is going to cause a boost and reverse the trend, there is zero evidence to support this.


I think you are smart enough to know that MK8 and Smash alone will push WiiU this year way beyond this years sales. seriously. MK8 and Smash vs LegoCity, MH3U rehash, Zelda HD and Pikmin is just a massacre.

WIll double this years sales so 6m is my bet. wanna bet real money or smthing?

I don't bet, especially real money (wtf?) you have your opinion and I have mine, I've already been wrong on WiiU sales twice this year (first thought 8m LTD then 7m!) You also need to take into account the average sales being down YoY. Price cut and Mario are out yet sales are down 50% YoY in the US (with more weeks)

What boosts are you expecting those weeks just out of curiosity?


Nintendo is not that frontloaded so not a big boost, holidays 2014 are going to be big for WiiU though



Seece on 19 December 2013
supernihilist said:
Seece said:

I don't bet, especially real money (wtf?) you have your opinion and I have mine, I've already been wrong on WiiU sales twice this year (first thought 8m LTD then 7m!) You also need to take into account the average sales being down YoY. Price cut and Mario are out yet sales are down 50% YoY in the US (with more weeks)

What boosts are you expecting those weeks just out of curiosity?


Nintendo is not that frontloaded so not a big boost, holidays 2014 are going to be big for WiiU though

Did this holiday hit your expectations? With price cut, bundles, advertising and Mario 3D?



 

zorg1000 on 19 December 2013
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.

oh aome on! you think WIiU is going to sell only 5m next year?

with MK8 and Smash and the rest?

It's doing 3m this year, why is next year going to see such a huge bump? We've yet to see if those franchise are effective. I just can't see them turning around anything.


is this a joke?

has MK and Smash something to prove already? much less to you!!! lolol

 

i can see easily doubling its sales of this year. wiiU will be 11m by Jan2015 at the very least

What bumps did it cause for Gamecube? I mean bare in mind WiiU is already at a much lower baseline level than Gamecube.

The funny part is hes arguing with u about it selling 10m by the beginning of 2015 yet his number is 11m in the same time frame, such a huge difference lol

But anywho Gamecube had better first year sales but also had more going in its favor. Starting price $199, dropped to $149 within 6 months which Is $50-100 less than the competition. Launch window exclusives Luigi's Mansion, Smash Bros Melee, Rogue Squadron, Wave Race, Super Monkey Ball. key exclusives in 2002, Feb-Sonic Adventure 2, April-Resident Evil Remake, June-Eternal Darkness, August-Mario Sunshine/Monkey Ball 2, September-Star Fox Adventures/Animal Crossing, Nov-Mario Party/Metroid Prime/Sonic Mega Collection/Resident Evil Zero. Also it easily recieved over 50% of multiplat games in 2002.

For comparison Wii U starting price was $299/349 or about $50-100 more than the competition. Launch exclusives include Nintendo Land, NSMBU, and ZombiU. Exclusives this year include March-Lego City, June-Game & Wario, August-Pikmin/Luigi U, Sept-Wonderful 101, Oct-Wind Waker/Wii Party U, Nov-3D World/M&S Olympics and maybe 20% of multiplats thru the year.

So as u can see GC was half the price, cheaper than comp, had more exclusives, bigger exclusives, and way better multiplat support. 



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supernihilist on 19 December 2013
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:

I don't bet, especially real money (wtf?) you have your opinion and I have mine, I've already been wrong on WiiU sales twice this year (first thought 8m LTD then 7m!) You also need to take into account the average sales being down YoY. Price cut and Mario are out yet sales are down 50% YoY in the US (with more weeks)

What boosts are you expecting those weeks just out of curiosity?


Nintendo is not that frontloaded so not a big boost, holidays 2014 are going to be big for WiiU though

Did this holiday hit your expectations? With price cut, bundles, advertising and Mario 3D?


oh man hell nO!

this whole year its been a disaster. there was a lot of work to do to even stay minimally relevant so i had low expectations.............. but its starting to gain traction thanks to that precisly.price cut, bundles, advertising and Mario 3D, specially in Japan it seems. it were supposed to put WiiU back on track and thats pretty much what happened. and 2014 should be the confirmation year.