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supernihilist on 19 December 2013
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.

oh aome on! you think WIiU is going to sell only 5m next year?

with MK8 and Smash and the rest?

It's doing 3m this year, why is next year going to see such a huge bump? We've yet to see if those franchise are effective. I just can't see them turning around anything.


is this a joke?

has MK and Smash something to prove already? much less to you!!! lolol

 

i can see easily doubling its sales of this year. wiiU will be 11m by Jan2015 at the very least



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Seece on 19 December 2013
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.

oh aome on! you think WIiU is going to sell only 5m next year?

with MK8 and Smash and the rest?

It's doing 3m this year, why is next year going to see such a huge bump? We've yet to see if those franchise are effective. I just can't see them turning around anything.


is this a joke?

has MK and Smash something to prove already? much less to you!!! lolol

 

i can see easily doubling its sales of this year. wiiU will be 11m by Jan2015 at the very least

What bumps did it cause for Gamecube? I mean bare in mind WiiU is already at a much lower baseline level than Gamecube.



 

supernihilist on 19 December 2013
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.

oh aome on! you think WIiU is going to sell only 5m next year?

with MK8 and Smash and the rest?

It's doing 3m this year, why is next year going to see such a huge bump? We've yet to see if those franchise are effective. I just can't see them turning around anything.


is this a joke?

has MK and Smash something to prove already? much less to you!!! lolol

 

i can see easily doubling its sales of this year. wiiU will be 11m by Jan2015 at the very least

What bumps did it cause for Gamecube? I mean bare in mind WiiU is already at a much lower baseline level than Gamecube.


LOL MKDD was a massive seller back in the day, remember the market was much smaller

and Smash???? It basically pushed GC in the US alone!!! it was a launch window game

 

still stop comparing to GC situation, it is very different today. Iwata is better at greelighting SW projects and consoles are trending more and more to 7 years life and i think WIiU will be that, more of a long runner than the GC ever was



Seece on 19 December 2013
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.

oh aome on! you think WIiU is going to sell only 5m next year?

with MK8 and Smash and the rest?

It's doing 3m this year, why is next year going to see such a huge bump? We've yet to see if those franchise are effective. I just can't see them turning around anything.


is this a joke?

has MK and Smash something to prove already? much less to you!!! lolol

 

i can see easily doubling its sales of this year. wiiU will be 11m by Jan2015 at the very least

What bumps did it cause for Gamecube? I mean bare in mind WiiU is already at a much lower baseline level than Gamecube.


LOL MKDD was a massive seller back in the day, remember the market was much smaller

and Smash???? It basically pushed GC in the US alone!!! it was a launch window game

 

still stop comparing to GC situation, it is very different today. Iwata is better at greelighting SW projects and consoles are trending more and more to 7 years life and i think WIiU will be that, more of a long runner than the GC ever was

That's great you think that. But there is no evidence for it, the only thing we have to go on is the here and now and the numbers since launch, and they do not favour the WiiU. (Don't make me pull out that NPD chart!)

You didn't provide numbers for those boosts? It'd help me justify what WIiU will do next year if you could post those numbers?



 

NintendoPie on 19 December 2013
RolStoppable said:
The Wii U is a piece of trash. The Wii was glorious.

A straightforward analysis that explains sales.

Says the "Nintendo Faithful" that bought the Wii U. 



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supernihilist on 19 December 2013
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
supernihilist said:
Seece said:

How do you know this??

Gamecube sold 21m (a portion of those not Nintendo faithfuls) so for all we know the Nintendo home console fanbase was around 15m going into the Wii era, which may or may not have added any to that.

Perhaps 10m~ is that the Nintendo home console fanbase make up now.

And you can't expect them to all jump on board in the first 12 months! WiiU should be at 10m early 2015 that gives them 2 years for software to come along that appeals to them.

oh aome on! you think WIiU is going to sell only 5m next year?

with MK8 and Smash and the rest?

It's doing 3m this year, why is next year going to see such a huge bump? We've yet to see if those franchise are effective. I just can't see them turning around anything.


is this a joke?

has MK and Smash something to prove already? much less to you!!! lolol

 

i can see easily doubling its sales of this year. wiiU will be 11m by Jan2015 at the very least

What bumps did it cause for Gamecube? I mean bare in mind WiiU is already at a much lower baseline level than Gamecube.


LOL MKDD was a massive seller back in the day, remember the market was much smaller

and Smash???? It basically pushed GC in the US alone!!! it was a launch window game

 

still stop comparing to GC situation, it is very different today. Iwata is better at greelighting SW projects and consoles are trending more and more to 7 years life and i think WIiU will be that, more of a long runner than the GC ever was

That's great you think that. But there is no evidence for it, the only thing we have to go on is the here and now and the numbers since launch, and they do not favour the WiiU. (Don't make me pull out that NPD chart!)

You didn't provide numbers for those boosts? It'd help me justify what WIiU will do next year if you could post those numbers?


lol you know thers no numbers for those years, dont try to fool me.

its just common sense. SMash and MKDD are the best selling games on GC so the ones that ride the sales.

 

also theres no evidence of the contrary either.

 

GC was more frontloaded tahn WIiU, times were like that then everything was frontloaded thats why intergenerational comparisons are misleading.

I think WiiU will do much better than GC in japan, in order of nearly a 100% better, similar numbers in US and Eu is the big q.

can NIntendo really make WiiU pop in the EU? theres their fight.

all in all i can see WiiU hitting 30m. N64 levels more or less. enough to stay relevant for the real next gen lol



JazzB1987 on 19 December 2013

I buy almost all Nintendo games.
I buy all third party exclusives
I buy all multiplatfrom games that are NOT available on PC because the PC version is better than any console version.
(as of today I own 4 PS3s and 3 360s and 2 WiiUs and I dont buy any multiplat game for these systems when its available on PC. The WiiU with its gamepad made me go  "WiiU or PC hmm" alot!  Because WiiU compared to PS3 and 360 offers something special)

I dont buy third party games that are lazy ports. (Batman or AssCreed framerate shit)

IF the framerate shit is  Nintendo exclusive and there is simply no other way to play it like  LegoCityUndercover  i still buy it. (that game does not really need good framerate   hectical stuff like Batman does tho)



chakkra on 19 December 2013
supernihilist said:
i bought it!.....but then sold it.....but then bought it again!
so im not to blame. plus i buy 3rd party stuff a lot on NIntendo consoles.

i think its too expensive. Nintendo consoles have always been very cheap at launch and WiiU broke that rule....and its paying it simple as that

This

Obviously I can not speak for everybody else, but I least this is one of the reasons why I decided to go with the PS3 this christmas (I'm late to the party, I know).



selnor1983 on 19 December 2013
KingdomHeartsFan said:

You expect every Nintendo fan to buy a Wii U in its first year of release?


Actually yes. The Wii had no games its last year or so. Unless Ninty fans these days are content with DS.



Seece on 19 December 2013
supernihilist said:
Seece said:
supernihilist said:


LOL MKDD was a massive seller back in the day, remember the market was much smaller

and Smash???? It basically pushed GC in the US alone!!! it was a launch window game

 

still stop comparing to GC situation, it is very different today. Iwata is better at greelighting SW projects and consoles are trending more and more to 7 years life and i think WIiU will be that, more of a long runner than the GC ever was

That's great you think that. But there is no evidence for it, the only thing we have to go on is the here and now and the numbers since launch, and they do not favour the WiiU. (Don't make me pull out that NPD chart!)

You didn't provide numbers for those boosts? It'd help me justify what WIiU will do next year if you could post those numbers?


lol you know thers no numbers for those years, dont try to fool me.

its just common sense. SMash and MKDD are the best selling games on GC so the ones that ride the sales.

 

also theres no evidence of the contrary either.

 

GC was more frontloaded tahn WIiU, times were like that then everything was frontloaded thats why intergenerational comparisons are misleading.

I think WiiU will do much better than GC in japan, in order of nearly a 100% better, similar numbers in US and Eu is the big q.

can NIntendo really make WiiU pop in the EU? theres their fight.

all in all i can see WiiU hitting 30m. N64 levels more or less. enough to stay relevant for the real next gen lol

Not here no, NPD, MediaCreate, they all go years back though.

Again I see no evidence, there is shipment data to back that up right?

We'll know for sure the end of this year 2014, but this reminds me of people saying Wiiu doing under 8m by the end of this year were crazy, turns out it'll do under 6m. So don't assume the best just because the worst seems unlikely (in your eyes).