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Because my topic was censored as I you don't have the right to voice an opinion about an obvious future (altough I work in a trend analysis cabinet...)

Here is the full article: http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/18/5223538/why-the-wii-u-failure-wont-change-nintendo
Excerpts from Neogaf

As ever, some commentators have greeted the bad news with proclamations that the death knell has been sounded for Nintendo as a hardware manufacturer, and the sooner the company follows Sega’s lead by transitioning to a software-only model the better. But such analysis reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of Nintendo’s business, strategy, and motivations. The Wii U may well be a failure, but it’s not likely to budge Nintendo from its current plan.

The 3DS handheld system is selling well, buoyed by a lineup of extremely strong titles such as The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds; Nintendo moved nearly 770,000 3DS consoles in November. "The company is far from being at risk or in any type of trouble of having to transition to becoming a software-only company," says Jesse Divnich, VP of insights and analysis at EEDAR. "They can and will thrive off of the success of the 3DS and reinvest the gained resources to improve their home console strategy going forward."

"Our philosophy that Nintendo games are best played on Nintendo devices has not changed."
That’s not to say that mobile devices are off the table entirely. "It’s a topic that comes up all the time. It’s a debate that’s constantly had," said Nintendo of America president and COO Reggie Fils-Aime in an interview with Seattle’s King 5 News this week. "We recognize that there are billions and billions of smartphones and tablets out there, and so what we’re doing is we’re being very smart in how we use these devices as marketing tools for our content." Although Nintendo says it is "experimenting" on such marketing that includes simple gameplay elements, these will be designed to entice people into buying Nintendo hardware. "If we can motivate you to have a little taste of a Nintendo experience and drive you towards the Wii U or 3DS, we’ve won."

Fils-Aime is skeptical of Nintendo’s ability to make money on mobile devices even if it were to make the switch. "The issue is that if you have games that are out there on all of these smart devices for very small amounts of money, it’s very difficult to monetize. And if you look at all of those companies that are trying to do it, there aren’t many that are doing it profitably for the long term. And so for us we really do believe that what’s best for the consumer, these great experiences that play wonderfully on the Wii U or the 3DS, is also great for the company."

If one thing has never been in doubt about Nintendo, it’s the company’s ability to deliver excellent games — and those games are only ever available on Nintendo hardware. The Wii U may have been a misfire, but it’s built on decade-old technology that won’t drag on the company’s bottom line too much. At the very least, it’ll be a welcoming home for first-party titles until Nintendo decides the time is right for a successor. "Nintendo isn’t one to go with the grain; they’ve built a successful company off of introducing hardware that revolutionizes the way we interact with game content," says Divnich. "They may not win the living room this generation, but I wouldn’t count them out in the future."



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Didn't read. Anyone who says it's a failure after one year is an idiot.



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DerpSandwich said:
Didn't read. Anyone who says it's a failure after one year is an idiot.

Anyone who thinks it's not probably has zero knowledge or experience of either economic, commerce, consumerism, marketing, or simply the video game market



DerpSandwich said:
Didn't read. Anyone who says it's a failure after one year is an idiot.

Well, thus far it's been somewhat of a failure :P Though compared to the Wii, it will always be a failure. I'm sure over time it will manage to pull off some decent numbers, but after such a good last gen with the DS and Wii, there is no way Nintendo are going to truly consider it a success.



Augluae said:
DerpSandwich said:
Didn't read. Anyone who says it's a failure after one year is an idiot.

Anyone who thinks it's not probably has zero knowledge or experience of either economic, commerce, consumerism, marketing, or simply the video game market


You say this, yet do YOU have experience?



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no problem to put some demos in iOs and google play for free.
If in the ending it says: "continue on wii U".

About failuring: they survived to GC and N64. With the money of wii and DS they can survive 4 more gens failuring in home console.
They will only abandon hardware when they failure both in handheld and home consoles for 2 gens.



hiimnew said:
Augluae said:
DerpSandwich said:
Didn't read. Anyone who says it's a failure after one year is an idiot.

Anyone who thinks it's not probably has zero knowledge or experience of either economic, commerce, consumerism, marketing, or simply the video game market

You say this, yet do YOU have experience?


Half of the posts in the thread so far are all ad hominem :/

What happened to, you know, convincing arguments?



 

 

 

 

 

We don't know why your topic was locked, honestly. Someone with thread-locking powers is going around and doing it on the sly.

We always, ALWAYS declare when a thread is being shut down. We do this for transparency. Why yours went is a great mystery to us.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

hiimnew said:
Augluae said:
DerpSandwich said:
Didn't read. Anyone who says it's a failure after one year is an idiot.

Anyone who thinks it's not probably has zero knowledge or experience of either economic, commerce, consumerism, marketing, or simply the video game market

You say this, yet do YOU have experience?

Again I work in a trend cabinet, and yes I've work in the video game industry for 2 years, but mainly I have played and follow the market for 10 years and that's my job to see or predict the future (in terms of trends, technology, society, politic...etc...and here I'm not even talking about 20 years/50 years long scenario, but the OBLIGATORY failure of the Wii U as of now).

jonathanalis said:
no problem to put some demos in iOs and google play for free. 
If in the ending it says: "continue on wii U".

About failuring: they survived to GC and N64. With the money of wii and DS they can survive 4 more gens failuring in home console.
They will only abandon hardware when they failure both in handheld and home consoles for 2 gens.

NOPE. The reason why Nintendo WAS successful and HAD great quality games is because they combined both console and software, like Apple combines devices and OS.

Unfortunetely, Iwata completely lost it, and they've made nothing but wrong decision for both console and software that they are already paying.

And the ONLY thing I hope for, is that the Wii U console cycle won't last long so that Nintendo release a true new and powerful console in 2/3 years.



Your other thread had an obvious agenda in mind.  When you start your OP with, "If you're one of those naive and delusional person who still didn't get on the page, and believe that the Wii U is not doomed..." you're asking for negativity right off the bat, not a balanced discussion.

Now, on topic:  This article, while I don't agree with everything, does make some good points.  The quotes from Jesse Divnich in particular are quite sound.