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I can't say I disagree...

VGC is a estimate site... so only the companies have the real and reliable numbers.

But one things that makes the VGC estimate close to real numbers are the frequents adjustments... so if you look at the BF weeks numbers I'm sure they will be wrong for at least some weeks but when the time got passed the numbers starts to be more accurate.

Eg.

BF 2012 is more accurate today than BF 2013.

And for a estimate site the number are good for hardware but not so much for software.

The wrong are the people that thinks in VGC like a tracker site... it is not... it is a estimate site.



Week by week numbers, WW numbers and pre-orders?

Yes, they are not accurated. Nothing to be ashamed of.

No one should realy care if a console sold more or less 10k in a week. We have quarterly financial reports to have exact numbers.



IGN staff are really one of the last ones who should call some other popular gaming related things bull, they are among the worst, unreliable, biased, bought sources of gaming journalism ever.

VG chartz is always quite near the reality and they constantly update their estimations when official numbers appear. VG chartz is the best source for console sales figures available, there is simply nothing else similar, this is the reason why VG is still popular.



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Grandia said:
IGN staff are really one of the last ones who should call some other popular gaming related things bull, they are among the worst, unreliable, biased, bought sources of gaming journalism ever.

VG chartz is always quite near the reality and they constantly update their estimations when official numbers appear. VG chartz is the best source for console sales figures available, there is simply nothing else similar, this is the reason why VG is still popular.

I disagree with the bold... VGC most times is far way from the reality but I agree with yout others points

Adjustments less than 100k after the trackers numbers is fine but we see more ~600k, ~400k, etc adjustments here that makes the numbers not even close to the reality.



They are right, vgchartz numbers are never correct, and are only estimates, not true fact.



IGNorant. Most of vgchartz data is free for public use, whereas NPD, Chart track etc. costs money. So what if vgchartz is not entirely accurate all the time, their numbers do get sorted through adjustments. If NPD etc were free do you think they'd be as accurate ? LOL they probably wouldn't exist.



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More ignorance from someone on a reputable videogame site talking about VGChartz.

As always I will post this - Why it is so Easy to Blame VGChartz

"What VGChartz offers is timely data that isn't meant to be 100% accurate but be in the right range. We don't compete with the likes of NPD, GFK or ChartTrack; we offer a service that is totally different. One that is not based on comprehensive and direct retail tracking, but rather uses modern and alternative methods to quickly arrive at estimates, combined with a database of historical sales - constantly adjusted and tweaked to be as accurate as possible."

"However, even with the greatest of diligence, our data is still just an estimate so whenever quoting a figure from VGChartz it should be listed as an estimate and readers should be made aware that there is a margin of error associated."

And of course, link to the methodology page - http://www.vgchartz.com/methodology.php