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Nintentacle said:
chapset said:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170598&page=-1#1
look at the gamecube numbers than look at the wii u's and be sad

I already knew GameCube is tracking ahead of Wii U, but didn't Wii U used to be ahead of PS360? Anything could happen. Remember when Vita was going to dominate? The exact opposite happened.


I don't think so, Wii U might've been ahead for a very short period of time early on, but PS3/360 were more supply constrained early on (and the PS3 was $600, lol). 

PS3 sold about 440k its second November, to the Wii U's 220k. XBox 360 was 511k its second November.  



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fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:
Nintentacle said:
Soundwave said:
Because cold, hard data indicates it's not even selling close to the Gamecube right now.

220k for a 2nd November is pathetic, that's not even half of what the GameCube sold it's second November.

And you're right they did start marketing and from August onwards have had a decent release schedule, not to mention a price cut and several new bundles.

GameCube sold 6 million in It's first year, right? How much did it sell at It's 2 year mark (September 14th, 2003)


I don't have the specific number in front of me, but I do know GameCube is about a million or more units ahead in the US at this point, and I think slightly higher in Japan too for the same time frame. Both sold like hot garbage in Europe, so I don't think that makes a huge difference. 

I think Wii U will need Mario Kart + Smash + another price reduction just to start selling at GameCube levels. 

Even then it's not guaranteed to sell at gamecube levels once these things come in effect. Mario kart coming in spring is quite a long way so over the time the WII U should dwindle down even more by that time. 

Spring isn't that far away...



Yeah certainly I expect a pretty ugly collapse for Wii U sales from Jan-March this year even with DKC.

Probably like 30k for Jan, 35k for Feb, and 30k for March for the US market.



people make me laugh, look at the games before judging the sales:

GameCube Year 1 (Nov 18, 2001 - Nov 18, 2002):

Wave Race: Blue Storm
Luigi's Mansion
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Pikmin
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
Super Mario Sunshine
Animal Crossing
Star Fox Adventures
Mario Party 4
Metroid Prime
Cubivore: Survival of the Fittest

Wii U Year 1 (Nov 18, 2012 - Nov 18, 2013):

New Super Mario Bros. U
Nintendo Land
LEGO City Undercover
New Super Luigi U
Game & Wario
Pikmin 3
The Wonderful 101
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
Wii Party U
Wii Fit U
Wii Sports Club


Compare the games and tell me who had the best games... yeah I thought so. GCN had a way better library in its first year. I expect the Wii U to catch up the GCN next year.



Nintentacle said:
fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:
Nintentacle said:
Soundwave said:
Because cold, hard data indicates it's not even selling close to the Gamecube right now.

220k for a 2nd November is pathetic, that's not even half of what the GameCube sold it's second November.

And you're right they did start marketing and from August onwards have had a decent release schedule, not to mention a price cut and several new bundles.

GameCube sold 6 million in It's first year, right? How much did it sell at It's 2 year mark (September 14th, 2003)


I don't have the specific number in front of me, but I do know GameCube is about a million or more units ahead in the US at this point, and I think slightly higher in Japan too for the same time frame. Both sold like hot garbage in Europe, so I don't think that makes a huge difference. 

I think Wii U will need Mario Kart + Smash + another price reduction just to start selling at GameCube levels. 

Even then it's not guaranteed to sell at gamecube levels once these things come in effect. Mario kart coming in spring is quite a long way so over the time the WII U should dwindle down even more by that time. 

Spring isn't that far away...

They didn't exactly specify the date so I'm assuming that it's release date is gonna be in May or something but if it's in april that's just as bad. They need to get mario kart out in march or else it really is fated to do worse than gamecube.  



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lmao. so youre a hater if you use data and common sense. People have already tore this apart using data. and no its not ahead of ps360



Soundwave said:
Nintentacle said:
chapset said:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170598&page=-1#1
look at the gamecube numbers than look at the wii u's and be sad

I already knew GameCube is tracking ahead of Wii U, but didn't Wii U used to be ahead of PS360? Anything could happen. Remember when Vita was going to dominate? The exact opposite happened.


I don't think so, Wii U might've been ahead for a very short period of time early on, but PS3/360 were more supply constrained early on (and the PS3 was $600, lol). 

PS3 sold about 440k its second November, to the Wii U's 220k. XBox 360 was 511k its second November.  

That's true, but it still was ahead for a couple of months. I'll give more examples showing that things change. PS3 was "doomed" for a long time, and 3DS used to be ahead of DS.



Consumer confidence in the Wii (as a brand) damaged when Nintendo abandoned the console in the later years. Terrible marketing at launch/post launch - people to this day still don't understand that a Wii U is standalone console. Gamers disininterested in ports of games on the console, when they can already play it on ones they aleady have and are not a big leap from last gen console versions.

Then there's the lack of truely compelling games.. Its lineup lacks variety and punch (to even the GC) and some of the more important third party games are noticably non present for the mainstream audience, or have no presence on that platform to begin with. It's also competing with the 3DS in first party content, and loosing at that.

Not to mention the price.. $300 is expensive for a Nintendo console. Not many people outside of their current userbase are willing to buy a Wii U, for that price to play some Mario. And, due to the added BOM of the Gamepad controller they can't exactly drop the price of the console either. So what we have here is the console for hardcore Nintendo gamers that are looking for more Mario and Zelda (with promise of other titles), among other titles. The rest of the people who want a machine to play Nintendo games need to look no further than a 3DS to fulfil their needs.

Also, cold hard data.



Nintentacle said:
chapset said:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170598&page=-1#1
look at the gamecube numbers than look at the wii u's and be sad

I already knew GameCube is tracking ahead of Wii U, but didn't Wii U used to be ahead of PS360? Anything could happen. Remember when Vita was going to dominate? The exact opposite happened.

Actually I remeber the PS3 doing 5.6 million for the first four quaters whereas the WII U is gonna likely do around 5 million in 5 quarters so it's really that bad. 



When you start tracking below Dreamcast numbers, you know it's not going to end well.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287