Consumers decide popularity, not quality. Garbage can be successful, as evidence by Twilight and Justin Beiber.

Well if you look at the generations that have passed. Both Sony and MS look up to Nintendo in innovations. Without Nintendo whos going to innovate? The PS5 and XB2 will come out just more powerful systems. People will get sick of it. The gaming industry needs something new all the time or people will consider playing Tablet and Mobile games.

Analog sticks, Rumble Feautures, L-R Buttons, Motion Controls, Touch Screen Controls, Real TIme 3D Worlds etc all came from Nintendo. Nintendo might not be doing that great with the WiiU however look at the 3DS and its innovations compared to the Vita which is just a massive graphic jump from its previous system. Nintendo's  Next Gen console will surely innovate again to keep the buisness rolling. Sony and MS will watch and follow. Again.

With inflation, $60 today is like $45 during PS2 days.  Games have higher production value and cost less today.  It's hard to immagine gaming will die.  As an industry it's expanding.  The format & distribution on pc/console/handheld/mobile/browser/streaming will keep changing though.

Once again were pretty much gonna have to agree to disagree. 

To further challenge your stance though you do agree with me that the WII was better than the WII U, right ?

bad sales = bad quality

Am I right ? ^_^

The way I see it, most of the video game industry acts like a young immature child who leaps before he thinks, but who's accepted because he keeps up with the times. Nintendo is more like that old martial arts master who may not get nearly as much attention as the child, but who still tries to instill discipline on that child.

With the 5th generation, it was Sony who wanted to go after the higher production values, and why not? It's what looked cool at the time and it's what everybody was asking for. Nintendo on the other hand wanted to focus strictly on gameplay while graphics and other high production values were secondary. The result were games like Resident Evil and Tomb Raider on PlayStation, where the production values were nice for it's time, but took away from the gameplay resulting in both gameplay and production values being horribly dated in five years. With the Nintendo 64, we got Super Mario 64 and the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Both games have stood the test of time very well and had become more influential with modern game design than the PlayStation classics.

Years later, we got the Wii from Nintendo while the other guys got the powerful HD consoles. With powerful HD consoles, we got expensive multimedia devices with multiple sku's and high failure rates. We got prettier versions of last gen games too. They were "cooler" and it's what the industry thought everybody wanted. With Nintendo, the focus was again placed on great gameplay and a simple device that was affordable and that everyone could easily understand.

Now, we're seeing the trend of releasing unfinished products with the promise of a patch, dlc for content that should have already been in the final product, and a bunch micro transactions that give us incomplete gaming experiences. Nintendo on the other hand gives us complete experiences on the other hand with any dlc being a bonus rather than an essential part to the game. Nintendo also gives us a complete product on day one and is still willing to delay their products to ensure that.

So imagine if Nintendo had disappeared after the SNES. I think the industry does need Nintendo around to give it the occasional slap in the face. Without Nintendo, there is no discipline in the industry, just younger kids chasing the latest craze.

I do agree that the Wii was better than the Wii U. I never said good sales necessarily = bad quality, haha.

Without proper third party it will reach thirty mil at the most. With Smash and a new Zelda around the corner Nintendo has a sale from me when those drop, but the first party the DS is what the Wii U should look like having a great blend of first, second and third party.

@Bold I know that but atleast nontheless you do agree with me that bad sales = bad quality, right ? If rol thinks that the WII U is trash then I'm in the same boat as he is LOL. 

Not always, I can think of a lot of good games that didn't sell well.

Confirmed: Half-Life 3 will be the blockbuster the Wii U needs!*

*Half-life 3 will never release.