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GT6 will be probably the most bundled game during the next 3 years with the PS3, while still being the best driving sim out there for a least until GT7 is released on PS4.

They will probably heavily bundle this game (along with TLOU) with the super super slim PS3 (20nm cell) in 2014.

The game will have lonnnnnng legs.



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You know what they say about assuming.....Also by that logic you could assume all other games that are undertracked on VG charts are due to digital sales??? No you could not. He never provided any evidence whatsoever to back up his claims. I was able to find EA (who's information is more credible than any of us, even if they are pricks) stating we are far away from even reaching 30% digital. This would not have been stated if digital sales were representing 15-20% by this point.  Considering the terrible spelling you would think you are related to Mr.Elite or an alt account!

You assume just casue Ea has low digital sales, GT would also.  You assume most have low broadband (even though you dont) you assue 15gb is to much to choose digital for most.

Your point of view is based on assumptions, you assume Vg innital numbers are correct even though just the week prior they were 40% wrong.  And have already adjusted GT6 numbers up once.  

You lack consistent arguement and you flip flop to whatever side supports your feeling.  Your posts are riddled with hypocracy, you base your opinion of vg numbers yet when i use em to show digital you flip agianst them.  

What games final sales has VG under/over tracked by 30% that have no digital version ?

Dont just assume Prove they have.

To show that my extrapolation of digital sales by comparing vg and PD numbers is flawerd you must prove large release like GT with no digital version has been undertracked by 30% thus showing my fallancy.  Should be easy nuf just show the sales numbers.

 

 

 



BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You know what they say about assuming.....Also by that logic you could assume all other games that are undertracked on VG charts are due to digital sales??? No you could not. He never provided any evidence whatsoever to back up his claims. I was able to find EA (who's information is more credible than any of us, even if they are pricks) stating we are far away from even reaching 30% digital. This would not have been stated if digital sales were representing 15-20% by this point.  Considering the terrible spelling you would think you are related to Mr.Elite or an alt account!

You assume just casue Ea has low digital sales, GT would also.  You assume most have low broadband (even though you dont) you assue 15gb is to much to choose digital for most.

Your point of view is based on assumptions, you assume Vg innital numbers are correct even though just the week prior they were 40% wrong.  And have already adjusted GT6 numbers up once.  

You lack consistent arguement and you flip flop to whatever side supports your feeling.  Your posts are riddled with hypocracy, you base your opinion of vg numbers yet when i use em to show digital you flip agianst them.  

What games final sales has VG under/over tracked by 30% that have no digital version ?

Dont just assume Prove they have.

To show that my extrapolation of digital sales by comparing vg and PD numbers is flawerd you must prove large release like GT with no digital version has been undertracked by 30% thus showing my fallancy.  Should be easy nuf just show the sales numbers.

 

 

 

And if someone believe 15Gb is too much for a digital game how can PS+ be such a sucess, MS go cloud and digital sales crazy and Sony invest in Gaikai?



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BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You know what they say about assuming.....Also by that logic you could assume all other games that are undertracked on VG charts are due to digital sales??? No you could not. He never provided any evidence whatsoever to back up his claims. I was able to find EA (who's information is more credible than any of us, even if they are pricks) stating we are far away from even reaching 30% digital. This would not have been stated if digital sales were representing 15-20% by this point.  Considering the terrible spelling you would think you are related to Mr.Elite or an alt account!

You assume just casue Ea has low digital sales, GT would also.  You assume most have low broadband (even though you dont) you assue 15gb is to much to choose digital for most.

Your point of view is based on assumptions, you assume Vg innital numbers are correct even though just the week prior they were 40% wrong.  And have already adjusted GT6 numbers up once.  

You lack consistent arguement and you flip flop to whatever side supports your feeling.  Your posts are riddled with hypocracy, you base your opinion of vg numbers yet when i use em to show digital you flip agianst them.  

What games final sales has VG under/over tracked by 30% that have no digital version ?

Dont just assume Prove they have.

To show that my extrapolation of digital sales by comparing vg and PD numbers is flawerd you must prove large release like GT with no digital version has been undertracked by 30% thus showing my fallancy.  Should be easy nuf just show the sales numbers.

 

 

 

You never provided links for these digital numbers, until then your talking out of your arse. Also I feel very sad for you if you do not believe that EA's  #'s would be in correlation to PD's. Are you forgetting they have multi million selling franchises on PC as well? 

With all do respect your argument is an absolute fail. Instead of asking questions, provide an answer to mine. Link the digital percentages for the games you provided as they PD's own site does not seem to have them. 

P.S I have never flip flopped once. You simply avoid my questions and go off into a nonsensical rant!



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DonFerrari said:
BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You know what they say about assuming.....Also by that logic you could assume all other games that are undertracked on VG charts are due to digital sales??? No you could not. He never provided any evidence whatsoever to back up his claims. I was able to find EA (who's information is more credible than any of us, even if they are pricks) stating we are far away from even reaching 30% digital. This would not have been stated if digital sales were representing 15-20% by this point.  Considering the terrible spelling you would think you are related to Mr.Elite or an alt account!

You assume just casue Ea has low digital sales, GT would also.  You assume most have low broadband (even though you dont) you assue 15gb is to much to choose digital for most.

Your point of view is based on assumptions, you assume Vg innital numbers are correct even though just the week prior they were 40% wrong.  And have already adjusted GT6 numbers up once.  

You lack consistent arguement and you flip flop to whatever side supports your feeling.  Your posts are riddled with hypocracy, you base your opinion of vg numbers yet when i use em to show digital you flip agianst them.  

What games final sales has VG under/over tracked by 30% that have no digital version ?

Dont just assume Prove they have.

To show that my extrapolation of digital sales by comparing vg and PD numbers is flawerd you must prove large release like GT with no digital version has been undertracked by 30% thus showing my fallancy.  Should be easy nuf just show the sales numbers.

 

 

 

And if someone believe 15Gb is too much for a digital game how can PS+ be such a sucess, MS go cloud and digital sales crazy and Sony invest in Gaikai?

The majority still purchase games on disc, please refer to EA comment. Digital content sells, but that is usually addons, dlc, indie games, etc of small size. M$ and Sony are investing in the future as companies are increasing data caps (some eliminating them) and will eventually pressure these companies to change their policies. At the current time, 15GB is still to large for a lot of people (time & bandwith)



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You never provided links for these digital numbers, until then your talking out of your arse. Also I feel very sad for you if you do not believe that EA's  #'s would be in correlation to PD's. Are you forgetting they have multi million selling franchises on PC as well? 

With all do respect your argument is an absolute fail. Instead of asking questions, provide an answer to mine. Link the digital percentages for the games you provided as they PD's own site does not seem to have them. 

P.S I have never flip flopped once. You simply avoid my questions and go off into a nonsensical rant!

ohh yes they are selling muti million franchises, it shows!

Pd does not differentiate between sales, its all the same to them.  So any one with any common sense at all can take Pds number and disk based sales be it NDP VGC MC and voila you got an anwser.  

Yahh you flip flop, first you champion Vg numbers then you dismiss them.



Nirvana_Nut85 said:
BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You know what they say about assuming.....Also by that logic you could assume all other games that are undertracked on VG charts are due to digital sales??? No you could not. He never provided any evidence whatsoever to back up his claims. I was able to find EA (who's information is more credible than any of us, even if they are pricks) stating we are far away from even reaching 30% digital. This would not have been stated if digital sales were representing 15-20% by this point.  Considering the terrible spelling you would think you are related to Mr.Elite or an alt account!

You assume just casue Ea has low digital sales, GT would also.  You assume most have low broadband (even though you dont) you assue 15gb is to much to choose digital for most.

Your point of view is based on assumptions, you assume Vg innital numbers are correct even though just the week prior they were 40% wrong.  And have already adjusted GT6 numbers up once.  

You lack consistent arguement and you flip flop to whatever side supports your feeling.  Your posts are riddled with hypocracy, you base your opinion of vg numbers yet when i use em to show digital you flip agianst them.  

What games final sales has VG under/over tracked by 30% that have no digital version ?

Dont just assume Prove they have.

To show that my extrapolation of digital sales by comparing vg and PD numbers is flawerd you must prove large release like GT with no digital version has been undertracked by 30% thus showing my fallancy.  Should be easy nuf just show the sales numbers.

 

 

 

You never provided links for these digital numbers, until then your talking out of your arse. Also I feel very sad for you if you do not believe that EA's  #'s would be in correlation to PD's. Are you forgetting they have multi million selling franchises on PC as well? 

With all do respect your argument is an absolute fail. Instead of asking questions, provide an answer to mine. Link the digital percentages for the games you provided as they PD's own site does not seem to have them. 

P.S I have never flip flopped once. You simply avoid my questions and go off into a nonsensical rant!


Why dont you stop posting your feelings and emotions on the matter, and prove your stuff atleast ONCE.

Show what major games finall tally has been undertracked by 30% thus disproving my numbers.  Untill you do my numbers stand as the only legitamate  correlation in the question of GT6 digital sales.

Since this was your counter argument PROVE IT.



BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You never provided links for these digital numbers, until then your talking out of your arse. Also I feel very sad for you if you do not believe that EA's  #'s would be in correlation to PD's. Are you forgetting they have multi million selling franchises on PC as well? 

With all do respect your argument is an absolute fail. Instead of asking questions, provide an answer to mine. Link the digital percentages for the games you provided as they PD's own site does not seem to have them. 

P.S I have never flip flopped once. You simply avoid my questions and go off into a nonsensical rant!

ohh yes they are selling muti million franchises, it shows!

Pd does not differentiate between sales, its all the same to them.  So any one with any common sense at all can take Pds number and disk based sales be it NDP VGC MC and voila you got an anwser.  

Yahh you flip flop, first you champion Vg numbers then you dismiss them.

I never dismissed there numbers, I cleary stated that if you are taking the difference in VG numbers and PD numbers and claiming the difference is digital sales then your argument has truly fallen flat on its ass, which it has.

You also realize that Diablo III was published by EA right.......Do you know how many millions that sold on PC.  Also they publish a fair amount of digital only titles/dlc, etc which contributes to the increase in revenue shares and like I advised previously the article was pertaining to games that are disc base.



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BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You know what they say about assuming.....Also by that logic you could assume all other games that are undertracked on VG charts are due to digital sales??? No you could not. He never provided any evidence whatsoever to back up his claims. I was able to find EA (who's information is more credible than any of us, even if they are pricks) stating we are far away from even reaching 30% digital. This would not have been stated if digital sales were representing 15-20% by this point.  Considering the terrible spelling you would think you are related to Mr.Elite or an alt account!

You assume just casue Ea has low digital sales, GT would also.  You assume most have low broadband (even though you dont) you assue 15gb is to much to choose digital for most.

Your point of view is based on assumptions, you assume Vg innital numbers are correct even though just the week prior they were 40% wrong.  And have already adjusted GT6 numbers up once.  

You lack consistent arguement and you flip flop to whatever side supports your feeling.  Your posts are riddled with hypocracy, you base your opinion of vg numbers yet when i use em to show digital you flip agianst them.  

What games final sales has VG under/over tracked by 30% that have no digital version ?

Dont just assume Prove they have.

To show that my extrapolation of digital sales by comparing vg and PD numbers is flawerd you must prove large release like GT with no digital version has been undertracked by 30% thus showing my fallancy.  Should be easy nuf just show the sales numbers.

 

 

 

You never provided links for these digital numbers, until then your talking out of your arse. Also I feel very sad for you if you do not believe that EA's  #'s would be in correlation to PD's. Are you forgetting they have multi million selling franchises on PC as well? 

With all do respect your argument is an absolute fail. Instead of asking questions, provide an answer to mine. Link the digital percentages for the games you provided as they PD's own site does not seem to have them. 

P.S I have never flip flopped once. You simply avoid my questions and go off into a nonsensical rant!


Why dont you stop posting your feelings and emotions on the matter, and prove your stuff atleast ONCE.

Show what major games finall tally has been undertracked by 30% thus disproving my numbers.  Untill you do my numbers stand as the only legitamate  correlation in the question of GT6 digital sales.

Since this was your counter argument PROVE IT.

I don't post feelings I simply post facts. You attempt to grasp at the hope that you failing game selling a magical amount of sales. A game that has fallen from it's previous heights and that no one really cares about.

You have not proved anything whatsoever. You argument is not legitamite whatsoever. You can tell yourself whatever you'd like to sleep better at night but the fact of the matter is you have no evidence to claim that prologue or the gtpsp iteration sold  even 10-15% digital.  You constantly claim "prove me wrong" yet you cannot provide a simple link. PD has never claimed your unrealistic numbers. You argument is moot and you are clearly just wasting time at this point.

I am the only one who has actually backed up their argument to this point!

P.S How would me showing a games numbers to be undertracked by 30% disprove your numbers? Some of your questions do not make any sense. Please read what you are actually writing before posting!



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:

P.S How would me showing a games numbers to be undertracked by 30% disprove your numbers? Some of your questions do not make any sense. Please read what you are actually writing before posting!

its ok i get it logic some can do it other have a hard time, its cool were all differant.

It would show the difference in sales between PD and Vg is not digital but just Vg undertracking.  The more games severly undertracked by Vg you show the more you crumble my argument that the differance is digital, get it now bud ? think you can show me some numbers now maybe ? try disproving my numbers with numbers ? 

Just look up a official number releases by publishers or developer, then check Vgc numbers.  Find ones with large differences 30ish % and you have just proven your arguments agianst mine.  If you need more help bud just ask.