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He already provided you the source PD page have total sales, vgchartz page have physical estimative. For GT5 they are close, for Gt5p and Gtpsp vgchartz
Is Almost 30% under PD page, and this is assumed due to digital. If you can't enter PD page, check vgchartz numbers I'm not sure you have intracromossomial capacity to discuss teu matter. And by seeing your thread, replies and intention I believe this is the case, even more when you can't infer this much by the available data.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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Yep, GT6 bombed. (No. 1 on VGChartz's software sales list.)



Love the 'final update' in the title, the game has been out less then 2 weeks, it's final, off the shelves, let's move on.
To add some useless anecdotal evidence, only half the people who were regularly playing GT5 on my friends lists have upgraded to gt6 so far, the other half is still busy with GTA5 multiplayer.



BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

By the fact you cant post anything better it shows im right and GT5p and GTpsps are the most relevent numbers we have, its the best we have to guess with potential digital sales for GT6.  Other devs numbers would mean less even if you could find em which you cant yet you are arguing agianst ones we can lol cry wolf much.  I got proof of Gran Turismos digital sales history.  That the franchise has already welcomed in digital game ownership.  Digital sales having a decent % of the sales pie on GT6 would be nothing shoking for this franchise.

None explained how GT5P or GTpsp lack relevency since NONE of you have any numbers to prove them lacking relevency.  All you all have is feelings and opinions backed by NO facts.  In the big boy world you need facts numbers as proof to get your point across, you feeling that its not relevent just does not cut it.

Hey waht the hell  ill help you since you are having such a hard time with this.

If you want to show GT5p digital sales are and anomoly due to its price, you must show a full priced  game selling far less digtal on PSN.  Show a few examples to prove you are right.  To prove Gtpsp is irrlelevnt show how some other franchsie did well digitally on PSP yet its conosle digital sales were next to nothing.  This would nullify the Gtpsp GT6 potential correlation. 

Just post facts to prove your current hypothesis more correct them mine, it really is this simple. 

But if you still struggle to comprehand that an agruemnt with out merit is worthless then so be it.

By the way if you truely think 15gb dw is hold back digital sales you full of it.  US providers are actualy quite good comapred to the nazis in canada and u dont see me crying 15bg is much.  Comsact lowest cap is 300gb from what i gather on a $40 plan, $55 in nazivile gets you a pathetic 60/80BGB and yet your are bitching lol.  Anything to support your baseless argument ehh hehe.


The fact of the matter is you have yet to back up any of your apprent facts with links or proof. Plain and simple. You seem to hypocritcally call me out for this yet you are doing the same in your delusional fanboy state of mind. So once again, post the links, post the links, post the links, post the links, post the links!


Your whole argument claiming that GTpsp and GT5p are not irrelevant are null and void for digital sales until you can link the actual figures which I have asked more than several times now.  You are asking me to provide statistics that you cannot even seem to find yourself, therefore claiming that a game that has had terrible marketing, complete lack of hype and poor (for the series) physical sales, yet has this magical amount of digital sales (which you cannot provide either) is complete and utter insanity. Why should you help me? Well, it seems that you cannot even help yourself when it comes to linking these digital sales and completely avoid the question! If we go by EA's most recent comments "It's a long way off" before digital downloads contribute to 30% of sales as "PHYSICAL GAME SALES STILL DWARF DIGITAL"!!!!!! http://ap.ign.com/en/news/10404/ea-physical-game-sales-still-dwarf-digital. If digital contributed to even 15-20% revenue vs physical, quotes like this would not have been made. 

300GB a month is sweet F! all. I go through 50gb every two days with streaming, netflix, downloads,etc. I'm sure a lot of people as well can attest to the same sort of usage. Why the hell is anyone going to waste 15gb of data for the a full price game when they can simply own the physical copy.  You need to face the reality that GT6 is a bomb. End of story. 

This is just hilarious.  You go through 50gb every two days so potentially doing 750gb a month yet cry about 15 for a full game,  congrats you have just disproven your bandwith argument.  Any more self examples to disprove your self?

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/ hope you are able enough to click once, then ill take some basic math when compared to VG numbers which you so ferociously support as correct.  And you get a number, if you need help just ask.

I face the reality you are a ignorant fanboy nothing more, even given Vg obvious ubdertracked numbers, 850k in two days.... yahh a bomb lol.

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NO, had you properly read my posts, you would have noticed that I had stated that I have "UNLIMITED". A significant portion of people do not. If bandwith limitations were not a huge factor, companies like Netflix would not provide the option of limiting the bandwith used.

Their site does not provide digital sales. I clearly provided you a reference from EA which you were unable to refute. If your attempting to compare VGC vs PD and claim that's the diff between digital sales then you need to re-evaluate your argument.

You claim VGC undertracks then claimit doesn't (read previous posts) make up your mind. Also, you never answered nor addressed any of my points, nor have you provided a link to DIGITAL SALES. Please Google the UK #'s if you do not beleive me on that one either!



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DonFerrari said:
He already provided you the source PD page have total sales, vgchartz page have physical estimative. For GT5 they are close, for Gt5p and Gtpsp vgchartz
Is Almost 30% under PD page, and this is assumed due to digital. If you can't enter PD page, check vgchartz numbers I'm not sure you have intracromossomial capacity to discuss teu matter. And by seeing your thread, replies and intention I believe this is the case, even more when you can't infer this much by the available data.

You know what they say about assuming.....Also by that logic you could assume all other games that are undertracked on VG charts are due to digital sales??? No you could not. He never provided any evidence whatsoever to back up his claims. I was able to find EA (who's information is more credible than any of us, even if they are pricks) stating we are far away from even reaching 30% digital. This would not have been stated if digital sales were representing 15-20% by this point.  Considering the terrible spelling you would think you are related to Mr.Elite or an alt account!



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:

With only 204, 784 copies moved in its first week (compared to 424,737 for GT 5) it would seem that the GT 6 has not even managed to move half the copies of the previous entry in the series which was also released to a smaller userbase. Will we see a similar scenario in  N.A & the E.U? Thoughts? 

 

Update: I missed this from Monday but it seems GT6 only moved 1/5th of what GT5 did in the UK
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-09-gran-turismo-6-launch-sales-were-just-a-fifth-of-gt5s


(First Week GT5 sales) http://www.vgchartz.com/game/7678/gran-turismo-5/

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/12/11/3ds-wii-u-have-another-strong-sales-week-in-japan

Let's wait and see if it outsells any of the Forza games on the X360????



Ashadian said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

With only 204, 784 copies moved in its first week (compared to 424,737 for GT 5) it would seem that the GT 6 has not even managed to move half the copies of the previous entry in the series which was also released to a smaller userbase. Will we see a similar scenario in  N.A & the E.U? Thoughts? 

 

Update: I missed this from Monday but it seems GT6 only moved 1/5th of what GT5 did in the UK
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-09-gran-turismo-6-launch-sales-were-just-a-fifth-of-gt5s


(First Week GT5 sales) http://www.vgchartz.com/game/7678/gran-turismo-5/

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/12/11/3ds-wii-u-have-another-strong-sales-week-in-japan

Let's wait and see if it outsells any of the Forza games on the X360????

Under normal circumstances that would be a safe bet. However, that may not happen with this one! I really do not see it reaching  50% sales of GT5. I'll go out on a limb and say it reaches 4-4.5 mill tops, which is horrible for Gran Turismo.



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:
DonFerrari said:
He provided you the source PD page have total sales, vgchartz page have physical estimative. For GT5 they are close, for Gt5p and Gtpsp vgchartz
Is Almost 30% under PD page, and this is assumed due to digital. If you can't enter PD page, check vgchartz numbers I'm not sure you have intracromossomial capacity to discuss teu matter. And by seeing your thread, replies and intention I believe this is the case, even more when you can't infer this much by the available data.

You know what they say about assuming.....Also by that logic you could assume all other games that are undertracked on VG charts are due to digital sales??? No you could not. He never provided any evidence whatsoever to back up his claims. I was able to find EA (who's information is more credible than any of us, even if they are pricks) stating we are far away from even reaching 30% digital. This would not have been stated if digital sales were representing 15-20% by this point.  Considering the terrible spelling you would think you are related to Mr.Elite or an alt account!

So you will consider 30% divergence for gt5p or Gtpsp but not for gt6 even if the others had a lot of time for correction. And still complain about changing arguments. I'm no one alt not know elite. About assuming, because EA posted that a long time ago them all struggle the same? I should think you are mr. Puggsly or selnor alt by your attitude towards gt? By your logic it seems so.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
DonFerrari said:
He provided you the source PD page have total sales, vgchartz page have physical estimative. For GT5 they are close, for Gt5p and Gtpsp vgchartz
Is Almost 30% under PD page, and this is assumed due to digital. If you can't enter PD page, check vgchartz numbers I'm not sure you have intracromossomial capacity to discuss teu matter. And by seeing your thread, replies and intention I believe this is the case, even more when you can't infer this much by the available data.

You know what they say about assuming.....Also by that logic you could assume all other games that are undertracked on VG charts are due to digital sales??? No you could not. He never provided any evidence whatsoever to back up his claims. I was able to find EA (who's information is more credible than any of us, even if they are pricks) stating we are far away from even reaching 30% digital. This would not have been stated if digital sales were representing 15-20% by this point.  Considering the terrible spelling you would think you are related to Mr.Elite or an alt account!

So you will consider 30% divergence for gt5p or Gtpsp but not for gt6 even if the others had a lot of time for correction. And still complain about changing arguments. I'm no one alt not know elite. About assuming, because EA posted that a long time ago them all struggle the same? I should think you are mr. Puggsly or selnor alt by your attitude towards gt? By your logic it seems so.

No, I aksed him to provide links proving 30% overall sales of each game are digital. I never stated that I beleived those numbers and comparing the difference between VGC and PD numbers and assuming that is digital would be of ignorance. I thought he had actual digital sales at first, not false assumptions. Also if you look through my profile, you can clearly tell I am not either of those two. 

P.S - I own GT5



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Still fighting the good fight I see. Even though you were off by nearly 200k copies not including digital sales. What, racing game one either the PS3 or Xbox 360 (or PS4 or One for that matter) besides GT5 did that well?

Yeah..."bomb"...



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