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BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

It doesn't support your theory whatsoever. Your are using numbers from a demo @1.9gb vs a full priced game @15gb. 

Once again please provide links for these sales, again, please provide links for GT5P digital sales.

You've been asked how many times now?

Also, if digital sales contributed such a significant amount  to full games on consoles then companies would be releasing their numbers.

that demo cost $39.99

click vg numbers

click pd official numbers 

do basic math and voila.

GT PSP 27% DIGITAL sales.

 

So you admit the games costed less and was a sizable less download size......= 100% relatable to GT6 digital sales.

Excuses excuses.........



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sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

It doesn't support your theory whatsoever. Your are using numbers from a demo @1.9gb vs a full priced game @15gb. 

Once again please provide links for these sales, again, please provide links for GT5P digital sales.

You've been asked how many times now?

Also, if digital sales contributed such a significant amount  to full games on consoles then companies would be releasing their numbers.

that demo cost $39.99

click vg numbers

click pd official numbers 

do basic math and voila.

GT PSP 27% DIGITAL sales.

 

So you admit the games costed less and was a sizable less download size......= 100% relatable to GT6 digital sales.

Excuses excuses.........

GT6 costs the same on disk as PSN, GT5p cost the same on PSN and disk.  It show the fanbase of the franchise has a history of choosing digital and at what rate.

Regardless of differance between GT6 and GT5p and GTpsp, you are looking at the relationship between disk and digital in this franchise.

WTF  is so hard for you to get ?  GT5p and GTpsp are the most relevent things to compare GT6 to.

but if you got numbers for other games please DO post them, im quite interested. 

 post something relevent.



BeElite said:
sales2099 said:

So you admit the games costed less and was a sizable less download size......= 100% relatable to GT6 digital sales.

Excuses excuses.........

GT6 costs the same on disk as PSN, GT5p cost the same on PSN and disk.  It show the fanbase of the franchise has a history of choosing digital and at what rate.

Regardless of differance between GT6 and GT5p and GTpsp, you are looking at the relationship between disk and digital in this franchise.

WTF  is so hard for you to get ?  GT5p and GTpsp are the most relevent things to compare GT6 to.

but if you got numbers for other games please DO post them, im quite interested. 

 post something relevent.

-_-

They have digital stats......that is about the ONLY thing that makes them relevant to GT6.

We don't need numbers to know a decline when we see one. Guess some people can be humbled and deal, some can't. Fight the good fight to the bitter end good sir.....may you sleep well tonight knowing you did your civic duty.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:

-_-

They have digital stats......that is about the ONLY thing that makes them relevant to GT6.

We don't need numbers to know a decline when we see one. Guess some people can be humbled and deal, some can't. Fight the good fight to the bitter end good sir.....may you sleep well tonight knowing you did your civic duty.


Then why dont you post more relevent numbers for more relevent games.



sales2099 said:
It is nice to see the other side for a change go into damage control. Seems to be a mix of " But teh digital" and "Its been out for less days then GT5 was"

Gimme a break. Its late in the gen and the next gen is upon us. What do you expect? Offcourse there are other factors at play, but its clear the series is on the decline.

Nothing wrong with that though if you like the game and still plan to enjoy it right?


Point 1 and 2 are the reason - Nothing else.
Point 3 is your wishful thinking cause you can't accept GT is the king of the (Real Driving Simulator)racing genre and will stay there.
The first GT on the PS4 will outsell all yearly releases of its "competitor" while obviously still offering more quality with GT7 than all of those combined.
People just don't care anymore for the PS360 that much.



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BeElite said:
sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

It doesn't support your theory whatsoever. Your are using numbers from a demo @1.9gb vs a full priced game @15gb. 

Once again please provide links for these sales, again, please provide links for GT5P digital sales.

You've been asked how many times now?

Also, if digital sales contributed such a significant amount  to full games on consoles then companies would be releasing their numbers.

that demo cost $39.99

click vg numbers

click pd official numbers 

do basic math and voila.

GT PSP 27% DIGITAL sales.

 

So you admit the games costed less and was a sizable less download size......= 100% relatable to GT6 digital sales.

Excuses excuses.........

GT6 costs the same on disk as PSN, GT5p cost the same on PSN and disk.  It show the fanbase of the franchise has a history of choosing digital and at what rate.

Regardless of differance between GT6 and GT5p and GTpsp, you are looking at the relationship between disk and digital in this franchise.

WTF  is so hard for you to get ?  GT5p and GTpsp are the most relevent things to compare GT6 to.

but if you got numbers for other games please DO post them, im quite interested. 

 post something relevent.

Seems like you are still not factoring in the $20 difference and the size of the game. Now to add to the insanity, you throw in a handheld game into the mix. Handheld vs. Console digital sales are not even close to being in the same league at this point in time. Companies also provide "shipped" numbers not sold to consumers. Your logic is flawed once again.

I also try to refrain from swearing but are you ever going to provide the f#@$ing links like you've been asked over and over again? It is not my responsibility to go searching for your numbers!



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:

Seems like you are still not factoring in the $20 difference and the size of the game. Now to add to the insanity, you throw in a handheld game into the mix. Handheld vs. Console digital sales are not even close to being in the same league at this point in time. Companies also provide "shipped" numbers not sold to consumers. Your logic is flawed once again.

I also try to refrain from swearing but are you ever going to provide the f#@$ing links like you've been asked over and over again? It is not my responsibility to go searching for your numbers!

What big factor is $20 difference? ohh yahh none.  Wheres your proof that its a factor, not just what you feel.

Yes 15 gigs such a massive deterrent from getting digital.  Oh the horror i only have 500Gb in my PS3, and i have ther freedom to upgrade to even more.

Iv proven that the GT fanbase is used to digital sales, its a fact.  you have no argument agianst it.  

Sales.

VG GT5 10.69
PD GT5 10.66

VG GT4 11.66
PD GT4 11.76

less then 1% differance between Vg and offical PD numbers.  Once agian my logic is legit, you are just plain wrong.  I use mathemitcal facts you only have fanboy feelings.

PDs site has the numbers, VGC has the numbers.



BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

Seems like you are still not factoring in the $20 difference and the size of the game. Now to add to the insanity, you throw in a handheld game into the mix. Handheld vs. Console digital sales are not even close to being in the same league at this point in time. Companies also provide "shipped" numbers not sold to consumers. Your logic is flawed once again.

I also try to refrain from swearing but are you ever going to provide the f#@$ing links like you've been asked over and over again? It is not my responsibility to go searching for your numbers!

What big factor is $20 difference? ohh yahh none.  Wheres your proof that its a factor, not just what you feel.

Yes 15 gigs such a massive deterrent from getting digital.  Oh the horror i only have 500Gb in my PS3, and i have ther freedom to upgrade to even more.

Iv proven that the GT fanbase is used to digital sales, its a fact.  you have no argument agianst it.  

Sales.

VG GT5 10.69
PD GT5 10.66

VG GT4 11.66
PD GT4 11.76

less then 1% differance between Vg and offical PD numbers.  Once agian my logic is legit, you are just plain wrong.  I use mathemitcal facts you only have fanboy feelings.

PDs site has the numbers, VGC has the numbers.


No your just delusional , nothing more, nothing less. You haven't proven anything. All you've provided are illogical arguments to accompany your fanboy pipe dream. 

Where is your proof that 15gbs is not a big deal to some people? You were clearly advised of isp limitations but choose to ignore it . Your also forgetting the clear lack of interest and poor marketing for the game.Your also using a glorified demo and a psp game as evidence, considering the size of each game? GTFO!

Where is your proof that GT6 is selling this magical amount of unheard digital sales for a console game?

You clearly have nothing. When week 2 sales are in, it will further cement this!



" Rebellion Against Tyrants Is Obedience To God"

Nirvana_Nut85 said:
BeElite said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

Seems like you are still not factoring in the $20 difference and the size of the game. Now to add to the insanity, you throw in a handheld game into the mix. Handheld vs. Console digital sales are not even close to being in the same league at this point in time. Companies also provide "shipped" numbers not sold to consumers. Your logic is flawed once again.

I also try to refrain from swearing but are you ever going to provide the f#@$ing links like you've been asked over and over again? It is not my responsibility to go searching for your numbers!

What big factor is $20 difference? ohh yahh none.  Wheres your proof that its a factor, not just what you feel.

Yes 15 gigs such a massive deterrent from getting digital.  Oh the horror i only have 500Gb in my PS3, and i have ther freedom to upgrade to even more.

Iv proven that the GT fanbase is used to digital sales, its a fact.  you have no argument agianst it.  

Sales.

VG GT5 10.69
PD GT5 10.66

VG GT4 11.66
PD GT4 11.76

less then 1% differance between Vg and offical PD numbers.  Once agian my logic is legit, you are just plain wrong.  I use mathemitcal facts you only have fanboy feelings.

PDs site has the numbers, VGC has the numbers.


No your just delusional , nothing more, nothing less. You haven't proven anything. All you've provided are illogical arguments to accompany your fanboy pipe dream. 

Where is your proof that 15gbs is not a big deal to some people? You were clearly advised of isp limitations but choose to ignore it . Your also forgetting the clear lack of interest and poor marketing for the game.Your also using a glorified demo and a psp game as evidence, considering the size of each game? GTFO!

Where is your proof that GT6 is selling this magical amount of unheard digital sales for a console game?

You clearly have nothing. When week 2 sales are in, it will further cement this!

Yahh lets pretand gamers tend not to be on the forftont of lateast and greatest tech adoption, lets pretand for you arguments sake all gamers have shit low capped internet.  Sure bud sure.  US bandwith is so bad, netflix bankruptcy is imminent.  

Post facts not feelings, no one cares what some fanboy feels.

If GTPSP or GT5p lacks releveancy post something that does.  Discredit my numbers using numbers, or is that to hard fort you to do.  

Post something more relevent then those two. Show some games sales and its failure in the digital relm to support and prove your theory.

Since my numbers are so irrelevent to GT6, you shoudl have no trouble at all posting ones that are much much more so relevent.

Come on lets see em, im sure you got em since your so sure of your self.  



sales2099 said:

So you admit the games costed less and was a sizable less download size......= 100% relatable to GT6 digital sales.

Excuses excuses.........

post better then.

Post more relatable numbers, shouldnt be hard.

you cant you cant can you......