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Madword said:
kirby007 said:
its not microsofts goal to outsell sony, its to make money

But by selling less they will ultimately make less money ;)

The reason I say this is that it's all about PSN/Live imho. The more people that move over to Sony, the more pay for PSN, the less people pay for live, which ultimately affects MS's bottom line.  Sony were very smart in doing a paid PSN because it means they make more revenue, but every single customer they get which moves over to them could have an impact on the profit that MS makes (and they were making alot from this).

While you are right in the long term, i am sure that increasing the production temporary right now, while seeming a good decision itsn't really the smartest thing to do businesswise



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ethomaz said:
kirby007 said:
its not microsofts goal to outsell sony, its to make money

To make money they need to sell more O.O

STOP BEING DENSE, COSTPRICE FOR GOING OVER NORMAL PRODUCTION ISN"T THE SAME



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sometimes i have the idea people think manufacturing products like these are done by a press on a button and the production changes instantly and less / more units are being pooped out.
ITS NOT



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ethomaz said:

Dark_Feanor said:

Now, You are lying!!

Kinect 2 Portugues Brazil works perfect, It as accurated as in English. Where did you put that out?

Sorry, but if you continue to spread missinformation I will have to report you.

You can report me every time here... I won't get mad with you... feel free.

It didn't... I tried.. it is 50% of chance... English didn't works accurated too but I can say my English is not good enough so I won't compain about it.

Do you have XOne? Do you have it at your living room or bedroom?

Have to ask, because I don´t have and never used it.

But about 1/3 of my active Live friends have and they never report anything like 50% chance. I even have a Skype call with one. He did exactly as it is marketed with portuguese comands while he played Fifa.

I follow game foruns and couldn´t find any report of "turning to english". May be only to change to original language for games with bad dubing.



Dark_Feanor said:

Do you have XOne? Do you have it at your living room or bedroom?

Have to ask, because I don´t have and never used it.

But about 1/3 of my active Live friends have and they never report anything like 50% chance. I even have a Skype call with one. He did exactly as it is marketed with portuguese comands while he played Fifa.

I follow game foruns and couldn´t find any report of "turning to english". May be only to change to original language for games with bad dubing.

I don't have one... but I have access to one in one of the bedroom of the home... my friend bought one at BF here (nós vivemos em uma replúbica... somos quatro caras na mesma casa... eu tenho um PS4 e ele um Xbone... o outro cara é PC gamer e o que mora no quarto de cima só Rock Band)... and not it didn't works accurate... to be fair we found to use English (he speak English better than me) better than Portuguese... maybe the system is not used to "sotaques" and you know Brasilians speaks ways different from each other.

And it is 50% of chance to get the command works... maybe it is only at the start... I will ask him if he gets better.

BTW the system didn't reconizes a lot of Portuguese words... you need to use English for these not supported by the system... biggest example Xbox On only woks in English... there is no Xbox Ligar (funny because Xbox Desligar works).



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Bristow9091 said:
IsawYoshi said:
Stuff blah blah blah whatever.

... I was going to post a proper reply to this thread, but then I saw your avatar and burst out laughing... I was drinking too, so I got Monster (The energy drink) all over my keyboard, and by the time I'd cleaned it all off, I've forgotten what I was originally going to post now...

I hate you for this. <3

I hate you too <3



007BondAgent said:
Panicnausia said:
007BondAgent said:
Smart idea, microsoft needs to focus on usa.


Disagree.....them doing even worse in europe this gen means they simply sont be that competitive WW. Sony has always done better in multiple regions, its why despite the PS3 being a mess, it still sold fdaster then 360. Now MS needs to focus on not just being the american console. Right now Ww it is not looking good fro MS, Sony is actually going to gain a lot of ground in teh US and has a chance to beat MS even there.

 

Unless they reverse that MS will never outsell sony.

It's always smart to defend your strong areas. And microsoft needs to defend america, or else they will lose it.


I have to agree with you. if MS has to choose between gaining ground in Eu or stay relevant and defending the US, I am pretty sure the US will be more important for them. Specially since the PS4 is ahead in MS strongest territories. Sony has put MS in a position where they really can't afford to focus on all 13 countries for now while demand for the PS4 seems better and stronger in the US. While Sony cannot meet demand it's important for MS that anyone who wants a Xbox One can find it easily. There are people who are not loyal to any brand who will just buy the console available when they walk in. MS has to try to get as many as those people as possible



I guess ms wants to make sure North America and the uk has plenty of consoles.
So far its working



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riecsou said:
ethomaz said:

DirtyP2002 said:

So because Sony apparently shipped more consoles than MS did so far (we don't have any numbers from MS yet), MS has production problems with the Xbox One... Awesome logic you have there.

So MS decided they didn't need to ship more units because I don't know... they don't want to sell Xbones... magical logic here

Fact: While Sony manufacture 2x PS4... MS is having a hard work to manufacture 1x Xbones... that's just a example and it can't be 2:1 but 3:2 for example.

Let us assume that MS shipped as munch as Sony. Sony sold 2.1 M PS4 worlwide compare to 1.5 M Xbox One of MS. So are you saying that demand for Xbox One is near 600 K less compare to PS4???

Maybe this is not that fair let us take the US which is MS strongest territory, 1.25 M PS4 vs 0.94 Xbox One. So are you saying that the demand for Xbox One in his strongest territory near 300 K less than the PS4???

That is of course assuming that the Xbox One is shipping at the same rate with the PS4...

Yield, production problems... being thrown around a lot it would seem in the time that I haven't been around and honstely, everything I've read about is is plain stupid.

No one can really say that MS is having yield/production issues unless someone who works there comes out and say it.

Also, to clear things up, supply issue is not the same as produciton issues/yield issues

Say MS' factories has a production capacity of 50,000 Xbox One units per day (this came out of my ass by the way). We don't really know what their acceptable yield is but, for the sake of the discussion, lets say that their daily target is 95% with a variance of +-5% of factory capacity, so their acceptable yield/production is 45,000 - 50,000 units. If MS is producing 47,000 - 49,000 units per day, then they are within their standards and therefore they DO NOT have produciton/yield issues.

Production/yield isseues would arrise if they are not able to produce units within their set limits. Say, they have been outputing only 40,000 units/day, then they have issues/problems.

Supply issues on the other hand is, as hopefully everyone here knows, is not being able to meet demand due to MS not being able to produce more units. Say, the demand for Xbox One is 60,000 per day, and since thier produciton capacity is at max only 50,000, then they DO HAVE supply issues.

Also, to address the strategy argument that its stupid for MS not to ship to this and that territory and so on and so forth because they ahve production issues blah blah blah... that argument is plain stupid.

MS has marketing and research teams that have already studied all of the supposed terrirories that they were suppose to release in. With the knowldege that they can only supply so much units, then they have to cut some countries from the launch. Obviously, they would be launching in the countries that they have found, based on their marketing reaserch, will yield the most sales. Frankly, its a good move by MS to only focus their available stocks in the countries where in they know that they will sell well or even sell out of their shipments. It wouldn't make much sense to divi up their available stocks just to include the other countries that they believe will not really gouble their Xbox Ones up. If they did that, then the US and the other countries that really want the Xbox One will have even less stocks and will have even more supply issues while the countries that are just so-so will have stocks liying around not selling.

None of us really know if Sony can make more PS4s as compared to MS and the Xbox One, but one thing is clear. In the countries that both consoles launched respectively, there is very high demand and everything that they ship out is selling out fast.

Now, please quit it with the produciton issues/yield problems equating to supply and demand... since you know, clearly, there is great demand for both and both do not have the supply to address the demand.



kirby007 said:
its not microsofts goal to outsell sony, its to make money


The more you sell...the more you make.........Only selling in 1 territory versus WW is never a good thing.