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SM3DWorld sales are bad

Where's Metroid? 91 30.74%
 
Outsold by Knack 95 32.09%
 
I want Galaxy 3 49 16.55%
 
I want 64-2 38 12.84%
 
I want Sunshine 2 22 7.43%
 
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Soundwave on 09 December 2013
Zero999 said:
Mr Khan said:
Frequency said:
Soundwave said:
 

It's still a bit much even if they are different genres. 

Brain Training and Wii Sports do not sell as much if they were Mario's Math Class and Mario Sports. Nintendo needs to understand that while slapping Mario on the box of 15 different types of games may be an easy way for a game to turn a profit, it hurts their overall brand by having so many games with the same character in them even if they are different games.

From November 2011 to November 2013 we've had ...

Mario Party 9, Paper Mario 3DS, Mario & Luigi 3DS, Luigi's Mansion, New Super Mario Bros. U, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Mario & Sonic London Olympics, Mario & Sonic Sochi Olympics, Mario Vs. DK 3DS, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 3D World, Mario Tennis 3D, Mario Kart 7, Mario Party 3DS, New Super Luigi U ... that's 15 games in a 24 month period, that means more than 1 new Mario or Luigi branded game every second month for 2 straight years basically. 

I can totally understand an exasperated parent being pissed off if they went to store to get the "new" Mario game, and ended up buying say "New Super Mario Bros. U" instead of Mario 3D World, not understanding the difference, because there's like 10 other Mario games staring back at them from the store shelf. 

And this, boys a girls, is oversaturation.

2 party games, two RPGs, a semi-horror gametype, 2 2D Platformers, 3 sports games, 2 3D Platformers, a racing game, and a DLC pack onto a 2D platformer.

I fail to see the merits of your argument beyond a purely superficial level. Customers aren't dumb.

and across 3 platforms.

I've followed Nintendo since the late 80s, I don't think they've ever released as many Mario games in 2-3 years as they have in the past few years. Even Iwata at one point said it was time to transition the 3DS away from the perception of being a "Mario machine". I even left off some games like Fortune Street which have Mario featured prominently. 

I mean if Sony pumped out Uncharted II, New Uncharted Vita, Uncharted III, Uncharted Ferrari Racing, Uncharted Basketball, Uncharted Party Games, Uncharted Of War Olympics: Drake & Kratos, Uncharted Of War Winter Olympics, Uncharted Tennis, Blake's (Drake's Brother) Haunted Mansion, Drake & Blake: RPG Brothers, Paper Drake: Uncharted, in two-three years, even if they were spread out on PS3/PS4/Vita it would probably raise some eye brows, lol. 



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Nintentacle on 09 December 2013
Lucas-Rio said:
Even as a Nintendo fan, I must admit that I am very happy that Mario 3D World is not having success and that the game is not moving console, eventhough I would like the Wii U to succeed.

The flop of 3D World would mean Nintendo stopping now with this approach of Mario and going back to full fledged 3D Mario like Galaxy, Sunshine and 64. I would have bought the Wii U for one of these game. Now Nintendo will have to wait the SB, MK8 and Zelda.

Nintendo only made 3D World to see what they could do with 3D Land's concept on a console. They never abandoned the "true" formula.



DevilRising on 09 December 2013

If you'd like, you could just turn this into another of the myriad of "Wii U is Doomed" threads.

Otherwise, what's the point, other than to point out that a console with a lower install base has a Mario that is selling slower. Math works.



Rustynail on 09 December 2013
Shortiloe said:

3D Land was also moving 3DS, not like a BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM, but it did over time and was the beginning of the wave of games, that made the 3DS successfull. Just wait till Mario Kart.

Pavolink said:
kopstudent89 said:
Didn't Wii U rise to 28k in Japan? Second consecutive week it rises. And it's not really holidays in Japan yet so that argument is invalid there. It's not moving as much as many have hoped though definitely but I can't remember when 3D Mario was last seen as a console mover.


While Galaxy 2 didn't moved any console, it have a 1.2M FW. Galaxy moved consoles the week before BF and had a 0.8M FW.

Userbase, dude.

Not this old tired argument again. How many times do you have to say wait for a, b, c, d, e, f, g? You said the same half a year ago saying wait for PIkmin, wait for Mario and Sonic olympics, wait for Wii fit, wait for Mario World, bla bla bla and now you say wait for Mario kart? Seriously? Just face it, WIi U is the next Gamecube, not the next 3DS or PS3, which had a massive amount of games over a long period of time, Wii U is not a next gen console and the third party support isn't the same as the PS3 had, if you don't have the games people wanna play, you're obviously gonna be having problems.



Nsanity on 09 December 2013
EricFabian said:
I think we have enough Marios for next 233 years

Fixed.



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TheEspionage on 09 December 2013

EDIT: Nevermind

Mario has huge legs and I expect them to continue with this game.  Itll do just fine :)



TayllorMasi on 09 December 2013

Not moving units? i remember the WiiU selling muuuuch less than that...



prayformojo on 09 December 2013

Between 1996 and 2002, we had a grand total of TWO, yes two, main Mario tiles on home consoles. Since 2007, we have had SIX games, if you include Luigi U. That's the problem. Not even Mario is impervious to overkill and it's up to Nintendo to put the brakes on and retire the little guy for awhile.



superhippy420 on 09 December 2013
prayformojo said:
Between 1996 and 2002, we had a grand total of TWO, yes two, main Mario tiles on home consoles. Since 2007, we have had SIX games, if you include Luigi U. That's the problem. Not even Mario is impervious to overkill and it's up to Nintendo to put the brakes on and retire the little guy for awhile.


Luigi U is DLC first of all.  No one counts RDR Undead Nightmare as an entire new entry.    2nd of all the Gamecube was the lightest on Mario Content for any Nintendo console and the NES and Wii were the heaviest and which one did the best.   I think the NSMB series needs to retire for a while but Mario sells the most consoles.  No one even uses Mario in Super Smash Bros but they stick him on the front every time because people recognize it and that matters.



Frequency on 09 December 2013
Soundwave said:
Zero999 said:
Mr Khan said:
Frequency said:
Soundwave said:
 

It's still a bit much even if they are different genres. 

Brain Training and Wii Sports do not sell as much if they were Mario's Math Class and Mario Sports. Nintendo needs to understand that while slapping Mario on the box of 15 different types of games may be an easy way for a game to turn a profit, it hurts their overall brand by having so many games with the same character in them even if they are different games.

From November 2011 to November 2013 we've had ...

Mario Party 9, Paper Mario 3DS, Mario & Luigi 3DS, Luigi's Mansion, New Super Mario Bros. U, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Mario & Sonic London Olympics, Mario & Sonic Sochi Olympics, Mario Vs. DK 3DS, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 3D World, Mario Tennis 3D, Mario Kart 7, Mario Party 3DS, New Super Luigi U ... that's 15 games in a 24 month period, that means more than 1 new Mario or Luigi branded game every second month for 2 straight years basically. 

I can totally understand an exasperated parent being pissed off if they went to store to get the "new" Mario game, and ended up buying say "New Super Mario Bros. U" instead of Mario 3D World, not understanding the difference, because there's like 10 other Mario games staring back at them from the store shelf. 

And this, boys a girls, is oversaturation.

2 party games, two RPGs, a semi-horror gametype, 2 2D Platformers, 3 sports games, 2 3D Platformers, a racing game, and a DLC pack onto a 2D platformer.

I fail to see the merits of your argument beyond a purely superficial level. Customers aren't dumb.

and across 3 platforms.

I've followed Nintendo since the late 80s, I don't think they've ever released as many Mario games in 2-3 years as they have in the past few years. Even Iwata at one point said it was time to transition the 3DS away from the perception of being a "Mario machine". I even left off some games like Fortune Street which have Mario featured prominently. 

I mean if Sony pumped out Uncharted II, New Uncharted Vita, Uncharted III, Uncharted Ferrari Racing, Uncharted Basketball, Uncharted Party Games, Uncharted Of War Olympics: Drake & Kratos, Uncharted Of War Winter Olympics, Uncharted Tennis, Blake's (Drake's Brother) Haunted Mansion, Drake & Blake: RPG Brothers, Paper Drake: Uncharted, in two-three years, even if they were spread out on PS3/PS4/Vita it would probably raise some eye brows, lol. 


Save your breath dudes, nintendo fans have denied mario is milked for over 20 years now, the irony of that very fact says it all.