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Why is WiiU not succeeding?

Concept 40 20.83%
 
Games - Lack of 36 18.75%
 
Price 2 1.04%
 
Competition 8 4.17%
 
Marketing 33 17.19%
 
Games & Price 4 2.08%
 
Games & Competition 12 6.25%
 
Games & Marketing 49 25.52%
 
Price & Competition 4 2.08%
 
Price & Marketing 4 2.08%
 
Total:192

I think the problem is, that it doesn't have that special game, you know, like Wii Sports. The Wii sold itself with Wii Sports whatever the price was, whatever the controls were, whatever the graphics were.
Look at the Gamecube, it didn't have any game that were revolutionary like the N64 first 3d games and didn't sell good at all. Sure the N64 didn't sell that great either, but you have to take into account the big economic crisis that hit Japan at that time, so marketing budgets were on the low side, plus the fact that the games were more expensive.

All that Nintendo has to do is release a crazy innovative title using the gamepad implementation and market it like crazy: something fun and easy to pickup and play, it must stay simple and straightforward in its core gameplay. At the moment, people don't see the use for the gamepad like the Wii remote was for the original Wii.

(Nintendoland is pretty hard to explain to the average consumer, it could be easily misinterpreted as something you can find on the iOS shop. Not saying it's a bad game.)

Once they manage to make such a game, that is when we will see Wii-level sales.
Until then it will have a hard time to sell greatly. I can only see gamers and a few families buying it, not the market the Wii was able to reach.



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Seece said:
snyps said:
It's been so long since a nintendo console had amazing 3rd party support (outside ubi, wb, activision, etc.) gamers that play for those games have solidified a commitment to Xbox and Playstation brands. The Wii brand lost a lot of it's base. Nintendo is amazing at bringing in new customers, they are not as good anymore at keeping them. Nintendo will have to (yet again) find a way to attract 5-10 year olds, and it's going to be harder than ever but they will succeed. Attracting the 18 year old is even harder. Games like killzone mercenary lets you stab a guy in the dick. Grand theft lets you bump uglies. Nintendo won't allow these kinds of experiences with out massive censorship. So immature kids are out of the question.


Finally, I believe ppl are closing their mind to potential fun it can bring. Understandably because graphics are all they can think about.

Oh man you don't sound salty at all ;)

Does that bring you happiness?  Am I supposed to be glad about this?  How would you feel if Xbox One wasn't succeeding?



snyps said:
Seece said:
snyps said:
It's been so long since a nintendo console had amazing 3rd party support (outside ubi, wb, activision, etc.) gamers that play for those games have solidified a commitment to Xbox and Playstation brands. The Wii brand lost a lot of it's base. Nintendo is amazing at bringing in new customers, they are not as good anymore at keeping them. Nintendo will have to (yet again) find a way to attract 5-10 year olds, and it's going to be harder than ever but they will succeed. Attracting the 18 year old is even harder. Games like killzone mercenary lets you stab a guy in the dick. Grand theft lets you bump uglies. Nintendo won't allow these kinds of experiences with out massive censorship. So immature kids are out of the question.


Finally, I believe ppl are closing their mind to potential fun it can bring. Understandably because graphics are all they can think about.

Oh man you don't sound salty at all ;)

Does that bring you happiness?  Am I supposed to be glad about this?  How would you feel if Xbox One wasn't succeedingafter a full year?

I'm saying what I'm seeing. You sound irrational with that post and completely off base.



 

Seece said:
snyps said:
Seece said:
snyps said:
It's been so long since a nintendo console had amazing 3rd party support (outside ubi, wb, activision, etc.) gamers that play for those games have solidified a commitment to Xbox and Playstation brands. The Wii brand lost a lot of it's base. Nintendo is amazing at bringing in new customers, they are not as good anymore at keeping them. Nintendo will have to (yet again) find a way to attract 5-10 year olds, and it's going to be harder than ever but they will succeed. Attracting the 18 year old is even harder. Games like killzone mercenary lets you stab a guy in the dick. Grand theft lets you bump uglies. Nintendo won't allow these kinds of experiences with out massive censorship. So immature kids are out of the question.


Finally, I believe ppl are closing their mind to potential fun it can bring. Understandably because graphics are all they can think about.

Oh man you don't sound salty at all ;)

Does that bring you happiness?  Am I supposed to be glad about this?  How would you feel if Xbox One wasn't succeedingafter a full year?

I'm saying what I'm seeing. You sound irrational with that post and completely off base.


oh, well doesn't have to make sense.



Bad, negative press. Similar to the Gamecube which was referred to as a kiddie console with it's lunchbox handle.



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there are many reasons, the name, marketing and teh lack of games
maybe valling it super wii u would have been better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pnPdd6Mcco



Pillow said:
All that Nintendo has to do is release a crazy innovative title using the gamepad implementation and market it like crazy: something fun and easy to pickup and play, it must stay simple and straightforward in its core gameplay. At the moment, people don't see the use for the gamepad like the Wii remote was for the original Wii. 


Problem being, that the tablet gamepad concept fundamentally isn't useful, if you're glancing down at the tablet controller screen, you can just as easily roll your controller forward or back with Sony's 6axis and have the game pause/switch to overlay mode on TV screen with the same info. Except Wii U is gimping itself because it is wasting it's own CPU/GPU power by displaying that info ALL THE TIME, not just when you want that info.

And then Nintendo is further gimping itself if it wants devs to create fun games, because the console architecture is way more of a headache to program for than either PS4 or Xbone, and even if the devs play along the result will be less than what even a bad effort at those consoles could achieve. Plenty of the 'lite' gaming crowd has moved to Apple or Android devices, and devs find those markets more profitable to make cool funky games for.

If it's not offering a fundentally better experience, then why bother paying the special entrance fee (console) to play Nintendo's games?

Only religious Nintendo fanatics would bother to.  So... maybe they should incorporate as a church for tax benefits?



Where's the all of the above option?



 

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Seriously though in a nutshell I think the Apple/tablet/smartphone revolution forever has changed consumer electronics and it basically stole much/all of Nintendo's blue ocean thunder. Casual/cartoony gaming is still hip ... just on smartphones and tablets, not on consoles anymore.

That combined with horrible management and lazy execution on Nintendo's part.  

The console business has now shifted back towards being driven by 13-35 year old males and Nintendo is feeling the cold shoulder of that audience because they have not catered to that group for the last 6-7 years. 



The casual factor should be in your poll. Casual gamers make up the bulk of Wii sales, and they don't buy consoles every time a new one launches. They will keep their Wii until it breaks, then they will buy a new one.