Actually, i just looked at the dates for the chart (23rd) and the Wii U did outsell the PS4 because it hadn't released on europe and japan. I thought it was the 29th chart, when the PS4 just released everywhere else. That one is my bad, i didn't look at the times properly. The Wii U did technically outsold the PS4.That being said;

Oh congratulations, the Wii U outsold the PS4 on a 3 to 1 market difference by a difference of 20k, you really know how to pick your battles. Things are really looking up for the Tablet Wii. Also, that is a really shitty/smugged attitude you carry around.

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Not in a smarmy way but, do I really have to say it?

Having relations to powerful gaming studios is not the same as being big yourself.  The way the title is worded makes it seem like Sony and Microsoft are these giants and Nintendo is struggling for power.  Nintendo is still much bigger than Sony and Microsoft on gaming, and the reason Nintendo is struggling to sell hardware has to do with many things, including the fact that 3rd party developers are increasingly getting more of the market share as the years go by.

Also, there wasn't a "backfire" with Rare and Capcom.  That, and Nintendo's software wont really ever go "under the radar."  At least not any time in the foreseeable future.

Nintendo owns the big dawgs, Raikou Entei and Suicune

Wii U November NPD needs to be above 350k to be "healthy". No excuses, put up or shut up time, the GameCube sold 468k its second November (same exact equivalent time frame).

If its below that then its simply not selling well, there's no spinning it. Even 350k to be honest is nothing to throw a party over, but I look at it as at least as a baseline metric. 

Well Nintendo's projections certainly aren't going to plan with the Wii U, are they? The Dreamcast was doing slightly better than the Wii U at this point and I think anyone considered Sega to be ahead of Sony or Nintendo by any stretch of the imagination.  Hardly grounds for being bigger than Sony and Microsoft just because of some weird sense of seniority. But the biggest difference is, as long as the handheld market stays viable, so will Nintendo.

And I think Nintendo at least shall I say, banking on those two to see the Gamecube through while they could cut some slack for themselves was monumentally obvious, we were sometimes waiting anywhere between 6 months to a year for internally published Gamecube games. It sounds familiar, but certainly not anything like the N64 or Wii...

The whole tablet idea was a disaster. Just as I foretold... They should probs forget about it and just go back to the drawing board but I don't think they'll do that...they're in too deep

You really aren't getting it, are you? I included it for the fact that it was a technicality. I'm not arguing that the Wii U is doing better than the PS4 right at this moment. I'm not invested in the stupid console war that so many here insist on fighting. When making a comment on the Wii U's sales improving, I used the 360 as a baseline and thus observed that the Wii U nearly sold as many units as it (compared with far less than it just a month ago)... and noted that it also technically outsold the PS4, simply because it's technically true, and thus may as well be mentioned.

There's no "see, the Wii U is better than the PS4" lying within the comment. It was a pure statement of fact, made simply for the sake of making it.

Meanwhile, YOU are being incredibly smug and shitty by doing things like referring to the Wii U as "Tablet Wii" - an attempt to delegitimise and devalue the system that millions of people own and play and enjoy. I don't dismiss, devalue, or otherwise attempt to minimise ANY system, and I suggest that you re-evaluate your way of thinking if you can't help but talk that way about a gaming system. No legitimate, real gamer would speak that way about a gaming system.

nintendo is part of the big dawg... in fact out of the 3 console maker... it is the only "video game centered" company....

What are the big dogs you talk about? Sony and Microsoft cant be them because they still have not recovered from the last one or two generations. So its more 2 injured puppies.

And btw why should Nintendo compete?    What exactly is to be gained from doing so?



"Nintendo needs to answer the question "why should I upgrade from my Wii to a Wii U. All they have so far are the same games in slightly better graphics and they can't stay competitive with the new systems"

You just described every Sony or Microsoft system EVER. Nintendo always brought something new to the table the rest only brought horsepower.