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kitler53 on 25 November 2013
animegaming said:
did anyone expect anything better from a kinect game then this?


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DonFerrari on 25 November 2013
shikamaru317 said:
DonFerrari said:
shikamaru317 said:
MajorSeizure said:
shikamaru317 said:
MajorSeizure said:
shikamaru317 said:

I don't think it's indicative of a problem with the new Kinect, apparently the Kinect Sports Rivals demo has seen much better reception, so it seems to me that Ubisoft just made a crappy game. Ironically, the user score for the Fighter Within is higher than the critic score despite Playstation fanboys that have been going around downvoting every Xbox One game on Metacritic.


Hate to break it to you....it works both ways.

Yes, but there are clearly more PS4 fanboys giving bad reviews than there are Xbox One fanboys giving good reviews, the user averages are considerably lower for Xbox One games than PS4 games.

Proof?

 

Maybe people just were disappointed in the games... Unless you have proof.......

Multiplatform Comparison

FIFA 14 PS4- 6.3, XBO- 5.9

NBA 2K14 PS4- 7.1 XBO- 6.1

NFS Rivals PS4- 7.2 XBO- 6.2

AC IV PS4- 7.9 XBO- 7.2

 

Exclusives

Forza 5 Critic- 8.2 User- 4.8

Dead Rising 3 Critic- 7.8 User- 5.6

Zoo Tycoon Critic- 6.8 User- 4.3

Knack Critic- 5.6 User- 6.7

Killzone Critic- Critic 7.4 User- 7.4

 

The proof is right there, there are more PS fanboys downvoting Xbox One games than there are Xbox One fanboys upvoting them, and yet Fighter Within has a higher user score than a critic score, that's not to say that it's not a bad game, because it probably is, I just found it ironic.

Maybe because there is less people interested in Xbone?

That's exactly my point, there are more people interested in the PS4 and assuming that the percentage of fanboys is the same for both platforms, a larger number of people interested in the PS4 means more total fanboys, and since a large number of fanboys downvote games on other platforms, that would account for the scores being lower on Xbox One games. I'm not here to say that the Fighter Within is a good game and that the user score being higher than the critic score is legitimate, because it's probably not, all I said was that the user score being higher than the critic score is ironic, becuase for most games it's the other way around.

That is the good part of fanboy review... you pick the average of the inflated official reviews (it usually is for all plats because of adds) with the downeated fanboys review and have a more real one =] ... and for PS4 games I'm more aligned with users review score than official, even if solely because of Knack that looks and play much better than sub-60 (if it was a Ninty game on WiiU it would have a better score).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

ktay95 on 25 November 2013

Came in here expecting an amazing score from your thread title... I was disappointed, just what I expected of it



ice on 25 November 2013

lol Did this really need a thread? I'd be more shocked if it received a good score.



Too_Talls on 25 November 2013
DonFerrari said:

That is the good part of fanboy review... you pick the average of the inflated official reviews (it usually is for all plats because of adds) with the downeated fanboys review and have a more real one =] ... and for PS4 games I'm more aligned with users review score than official, even if solely because of Knack that looks and play much better than sub-60 (if it was a Ninty game on WiiU it would have a better score).


Mid generation when there are a lot of games out there the user reviews should stabalize. the fan war is at a high point early on so fan boys and girls are hard at work trolling. When unaffected by fanboy voting I agree that the user scores are usually a better indication of the game's value than the official reviews. It's accumulated by a much larger number of people than the amount of review sitees that count to the metric. and those people spent honest time with the game were as guys who do reviews for a living look at it more as a job than recreation and they get the games for free so they don't really care about putting all that much into enjoying the  games.



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ktay95 on 25 November 2013
shikamaru317 said:
MajorSeizure said:
shikamaru317 said:
MajorSeizure said:

Proof?

 

Maybe people just were disappointed in the games... Unless you have proof.......

Multiplatform Comparison

FIFA 14 PS4- 6.3, XBO- 5.9

NBA 2K14 PS4- 7.1 XBO- 6.1

NFS Rivals PS4- 7.2 XBO- 6.2

AC IV PS4- 7.9 XBO- 7.2

 

Exclusives

Forza 5 Critic- 8.2 User- 4.8

Dead Rising 3 Critic- 7.8 User- 5.6

Knack Critic- 5.6 User- 6.7

Killzone Critic- Critic 7.4 User- 7.4

 

The proof is right there, there are more PS fanboys downvoting Xbox One games than there are Xbox One fanboys upvoting them, and yet Fighter Within has a higher user score than a critic score, that's not to say that it's not a bad game, because it probably is, I just found it ironic.


That's not proof that's pure speculation, for every fanboy there is an xbox fan doing the same, and giving 10/10 on every game.


How's that not proof? There's no logical reason for Xbox One versions of multiplat games to be considerably lower, other than the fact that certain Xbox One games run at a slightly lower resolution, but some of those games are nearly identical between the two patforms. There's also no logical reason for Xbox One exclusives to have such low user scores (in the case of Forza 5, half of the critic score) other than PS fanboys downvoting them. 

trust me when the massive fanbase of GT is against you that was the best you could hope for with Forza. On top of that there is the PS4 fanboys who must make XBO games look bad, you never stood a chance at a decent user review



Mr Puggsly on 25 November 2013

Its amazing how much effort went into the presentation... but no effort in the actual game.



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DonFerrari on 25 November 2013
Too_Talls said:
DonFerrari said:

That is the good part of fanboy review... you pick the average of the inflated official reviews (it usually is for all plats because of adds) with the downeated fanboys review and have a more real one =] ... and for PS4 games I'm more aligned with users review score than official, even if solely because of Knack that looks and play much better than sub-60 (if it was a Ninty game on WiiU it would have a better score).


Mid generation when there are a lot of games out there the user reviews should stabalize. the fan war is at a high point early on so fan boys and girls are hard at work trolling. When unaffected by fanboy voting I agree that the user scores are usually a better indication of the game's value than the official reviews. It's accumulated by a much larger number of people than the amount of review sitees that count to the metric. and those people spent honest time with the game were as guys who do reviews for a living look at it more as a job than recreation and they get the games for free so they don't really care about putting all that much into enjoying the  games.

Agree with you... but don't you think that right now we have some bogus official review with scores too low (like Knack and possibly Ryse) and others too high (like DR3 buggyfest and KI still incomplete)??? And if you sum it average with users average and average the result you may have a closer to reality number???

For me Metacritic is more valuable as a shittometer... bellow 50 don't touch, between 50-70 niche, 70-85 good, 85-90 gorgeous 90+ must buy. Don't give them much credit for the exact number (to much biased sites still allowed, and some serious magazine really obscure score system).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 25 November 2013

On a note against this particular game... The Fight: Lights Out is a blast and I loved it, even more with Danny Trejo being coach. Its possible to make a kinect fighting game decent, maybe Ubisoft wasn't the dev for it (to clarify the Fight is a Move game).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

ethomaz on 25 November 2013

Best lineup in the console history...