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FromDK said:
JoeTheBro said:

Oh no VR really only works if it's 3D. Every VR headset out there is stereoscopic 3D.

Nintendo isn't doing real VR, and they most definitly aren't doing haphazard VR.

Not true.. Try to see this video from 2007 where johnny lee make headtracking with the wii.. The point is that in the second you have a picture controlled by headtracking it apears in 3d.. and that is all nintendo needs.. But yes, what i'm talkin about is not a pro +1000$ vr helmet, but a cheap way to deliver VR.. Wii-R  :) 

(that also means that the display don't have to big be a helmet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

I've seen that video, but the illusion is broken if you see the effect in person. It just doesn't work. Sorry. Kinda confused by your OP though if that's what you were going for. Even the PS2 eye toy could do that type of VR. Devs could easily do that right now with the current wii u gamepad.

 

Somewhat off topic but Johnny Lee now works at Microsoft with Kinect and that group.



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This all sounds a bit over the top. More likely that Nintendo is simply sticking to their 9M number in order to keep investors calm.

Also, VR tech in the past has failed to sell due to issues with disorientation, nausea and bad graphics - these can be improved, but I believe you need a much higher powered machine than a WiiU to get to that level of realism. Even a modern top of the range PC will struggle with decent VR (is my understanding, not an expert myself).



I think its Miyamotos new ip, atleast I hope. Or maybe Pezus is right. VR i must admit might be a stretch. It would take the attention away from the Gamepad.



pezus said:
I think it will be a trailer and release date for smash and/or mario kart

If they wanna have a real impact it has to be something never shown before.....after Aonuma's latest comments on Zelda U a reveal isn't impossible. I still believe we will see it before the end of the year.



JoeTheBro said:
FromDK said:
JoeTheBro said:

Oh no VR really only works if it's 3D. Every VR headset out there is stereoscopic 3D.

Nintendo isn't doing real VR, and they most definitly aren't doing haphazard VR.

Not true.. Try to see this video from 2007 where johnny lee make headtracking with the wii.. The point is that in the second you have a picture controlled by headtracking it apears in 3d.. and that is all nintendo needs.. But yes, what i'm talkin about is not a pro +1000$ vr helmet, but a cheap way to deliver VR.. Wii-R  :) 

(that also means that the display don't have to big be a helmet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

I've seen that video, but the illusion is broken if you see the effect in person. It just doesn't work. Sorry. Kinda confused by your OP though if that's what you were going for. Even the PS2 eye toy could do that type of VR. Devs could easily do that right now with the current wii u gamepad.

 

Somewhat off topic but Johnny Lee now works at Microsoft with Kinect and that group.

You see my edit.. I understand you was confused..


But you are not getting the point with that video.. try to emty your mind.. :)

Try to imagine that your have a 2d screen, mayby at the size af the upad screen

Now you playMario 64.. but in "look around mode" you now can move and jump in first person view all time

infront of you is a big gomba and you use nunchuc for a fast attack... HERE IT COMES

When you have mario's vision, and it respond 100% to your own headmovment and everything you see respond to that.. you have cheap VR.. U see ?

And eyetoy was not motion plus.. and you could not strap the tv to your head.. :)



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JoeTheBro said:
FromDK said:
JoeTheBro said:

Oh no VR really only works if it's 3D. Every VR headset out there is stereoscopic 3D.

Nintendo isn't doing real VR, and they most definitly aren't doing haphazard VR.

Not true.. Try to see this video from 2007 where johnny lee make headtracking with the wii.. The point is that in the second you have a picture controlled by headtracking it apears in 3d.. and that is all nintendo needs.. But yes, what i'm talkin about is not a pro +1000$ vr helmet, but a cheap way to deliver VR.. Wii-R  :) 

(that also means that the display don't have to big be a helmet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

I've seen that video, but the illusion is broken if you see the effect in person. It just doesn't work. Sorry. Kinda confused by your OP though if that's what you were going for. Even the PS2 eye toy could do that type of VR. Devs could easily do that right now with the current wii u gamepad.

 

Somewhat off topic but Johnny Lee now works at Microsoft with Kinect and that group.

What do you mean the illusion is broken when you see the effect in person? Why wouldn't it appear 3D anymore? Wasn't that the whole idea of the video?

I always figured glasses-free 3D is what they were going for with the Wii U based off some patent releases from about 2 years ago I think. I'm not a technical wizard but there's a camera and a sensor bar in the palm of your hand, sounds like they could achieve something similar with the Wii U, without adding any external peripherals. (as you mention as well)

By the way, didn't Nintendo mention something about a game card that would've allowed the Wii U to have some sort of street pass function. This is from back when it was still called Project Café though. I've tried looking for it but can't find anything, maybe I dreamed it?



i would love that!!!!



Switch!!!

JoeTheBro said:
Doubt it. I expect their VGX thing to be something quirky like a real life super smash bros. match with people cosplaying the characters.

 



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

VGX's target demographic is Mountain Dew drinking teenagers and early college age males.

Bayonetta and X fit that crowd perfectly, I'd expect those, maybe something a new look at Smash too.

We haven't seen anything new on X or Bayonetta 2 since E3 last June, so it makes sense to show something now. X needs to get an actual official title too, lol.



I also dobt it because it would boost the price of the Wii U to being right up there with the vastly superior technolofy wise Xbox One and Playstation 4 and nobody would buy the underpowered Wii U at that price for another gimmick and expensive, later additions to consoles don't really have a track record for making them sell all that much more than they already are selling.

The best bomb Nintendo can drop with Wii U is to reduce the price of Wii U's Deluxe Model to $199.99 because then it would be available at a realistic price point in relation to PS4 and Xbone.