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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Is XBox One The First "Smart Console" (ala Smartphones)?

bananaking21 on 19 November 2013
foodfather said:
Xenostar said:
No not at all


Classic response, anything else to contribute?

 

And OP, I agree, the more I see the Xbox One UI, the more I think it is far and beyond any smart bluray player, TV or smartphones. 

Remember before the smartphone crazy, the majority of phones sold were low end nokia models, the high end models which featured nice screens and nice cameras never appealed to the masses, but now look at the mobile industry, everyone has the latest smartphones despite being rediculously over priced. I'm thinking the same will happen to Xbox One, just like it happened with Smartphones and even Kinect. 

the Nokia n95, n73 and such phones were huge sellers. 



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Soundwave on 19 November 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifa9Q7ATfVA

Here's another shorter Wired video.

In the future I think these types of features will be standard on all game consoles and it will change the television experience in general too. 

For anyone that watches live sports for example (which is about 80% of the global population) ... this can change that experience also.

The remote control will pretty much go away IMO, it's also probably what Apple is working on (ironically buying the maker of the first Kinect), but they have been slow on the draw. Looks like Microsoft beat them to it for once.



Jay520 on 19 November 2013
Soundwave said:

In the console evolution, I feel like the XBox One is like what the advent of smart phones were to cell phones. 

Previous cell phones (or "dumb phones" if you will) had basic functionality like you could make calls, text, play some rudimentary games, even take photos by 2003 or so, but "smart phones" with touch based OS interfaces like the iPhone completely changed everything, even though you could say "well it's just a phone, I just make phone calls and text with it". 

I think for all the flak MS has gotten a lot of people are sleeping on the potential of this ... this IMO is also truly the first game console almost anyone can use as long as they can talk. The Kinect camera even automatically recognizes who you are when the system boots up, this is something a grandparent use, the interface is that intuitive. 

PS4 is a terrific console, but it still in many ways feels like a "dumb console", the X1 feels like something that's connected to the broader internet and your cable TV at all times, not just a walled in "video game network". I think for once Microsoft has finally beaten Apple to the punch -- they missed out on iPhone and iPad, but they got to Apple first by getting X1 out before Apple iTV. This is the product Apple should have made first. 


From what I have seen so far, I must disagree. The Xbox One doesn't seem to allow you to do anything dramatically different than what we were able to do before, like smart phones. Rather, the innovation behind the Xbox One lies more in execution and accessibility rather than actual features. The examples you gave with cable TV and "broader internet" (whatever that is) were already availlable to people. The Xbox One just made them easier, prettier, and able to talk to. 



Soundwave on 19 November 2013
Jay520 said:
Soundwave said:

In the console evolution, I feel like the XBox One is like what the advent of smart phones were to cell phones. 

Previous cell phones (or "dumb phones" if you will) had basic functionality like you could make calls, text, play some rudimentary games, even take photos by 2003 or so, but "smart phones" with touch based OS interfaces like the iPhone completely changed everything, even though you could say "well it's just a phone, I just make phone calls and text with it". 

I think for all the flak MS has gotten a lot of people are sleeping on the potential of this ... this IMO is also truly the first game console almost anyone can use as long as they can talk. The Kinect camera even automatically recognizes who you are when the system boots up, this is something a grandparent use, the interface is that intuitive. 

PS4 is a terrific console, but it still in many ways feels like a "dumb console", the X1 feels like something that's connected to the broader internet and your cable TV at all times, not just a walled in "video game network". I think for once Microsoft has finally beaten Apple to the punch -- they missed out on iPhone and iPad, but they got to Apple first by getting X1 out before Apple iTV. This is the product Apple should have made first. 


From what I have seen so far, I must disagree. The Xbox One doesn't seem to allow you to do anything dramatically different than what we were able to do before, like smart phones. Rather, the innovation behind the Xbox One lies more in execution and accessibility rather than actual features. The examples you gave with cable TV and "broader internet" (whatever that is) were already availlable to people. The Xbox One just made them easier, prettier, and able to talk to. 


Which makes it ground breaking for a TV device. 

Right now if you're watching TV dollars to donughts you can't Skype your friend instaneously while watching a basketball game or an episode of Game of Thrones and get their live reaction to it. You don't get gamer invites while you're watching TV. You can't have the football game on in the corner of the screen while playing online Battlefield or something.

That's the same as smartphones ... I mean I could check my Facebook and Mapquest to get directions and email before I had an iPhone ... but doing that through a phone was basically a walled off experience. Smartphones broke down those walls and let you do it all. 

I think XBox One does a similar thing for television. In the long run I think it will be seen as a game changer for what it means to be a "game console". 



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archer9234 on 19 November 2013
Soundwave said:
JerCotter7 said:
The Vita is closer to a smartphone so I would put the Vita closer to being a "smart" console. But even that isn't right. The bone isn't.


I'm speaking in terms of the elevation in user experience, not form factor. 

The X1 is something I can put in front of my sister who's clueless with technical things and needs to ask me to change inputs so that she can watch a movie or something ... I can put that infront of her and she can just say "XBox On". "XBox go to Netflix". And it does all that without having to cycle through TV inputs, etc. 

It just saves a lot of headaches. I'm almost contemplating buying one for my parents when the price is cheaper just because it makes TV/movie watching so much easier for them and they can Skype with friends no problem. 

A PS4 can do the same thing. Heck, my PS3 can do that. Use the VIERA link (other names on other brands). It lets you remote control the console though the HDMI cable. And turns the system on, when you turn the TV on/off. No input change, no nothing else needed to get to the system. And PS4 has voice control. If skype is allowed on the PS4 it could do those things too. Frankly I Skype and stream DVD/BD TV to my friend over it. On my PC.



ExistentialNihilist on 19 November 2013

double A batteries are the future. lawl



Goatseye on 19 November 2013
ExistentialNihilist said:
double A batteries are the future. lawl

Lasts longer, why not?



ExistentialNihilist on 19 November 2013
Goatseye said:
ExistentialNihilist said:
double A batteries are the future. lawl

Lasts longer, why not?



does your smartphone use double As too? lawl

Netyaroze on 19 November 2013
foodfather said:
Xenostar said:
No not at all


Classic response, anything else to contribute?

 

And OP, I agree, the more I see the Xbox One UI, the more I think it is far and beyond any smart bluray player, TV or smartphones. 

Remember before the smartphone crazy, the majority of phones sold were low end nokia models, the high end models which featured nice screens and nice cameras never appealed to the masses, but now look at the mobile industry, everyone has the latest smartphones despite being rediculously over priced. I'm thinking the same will happen to Xbox One, just like it happened with Smartphones and even Kinect. 


the majority of phones sold here were the high end nokia models. People from India and China bought the lowend phones. More people had a N95 than a 100 Dollar Nokia Phone.  The german masses atleast always bought the higher end models from any manufacturer. Nobody wanted a cheap phone. Heck I have seen more 8800/8600 Nokias than the cheap ones.