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Forums - Sales Discussion - No More Heroes cracks 100k in North America in only three weeks

ClaudeLv250 said:
coolestguyever said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but PS3 version of DMC4 did it in 1 week with a much smaller install base. Own3d!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but no one gives a shit. DMC =/= Suda 51 game.

The SDF is on patrol tonight.


 Hey, Claude, what's your secret? How do manage to troll and flame all the time and get away with it? When I do it, there's always a mod on my back. Teach me your ways.



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Did you happen to look at "coolestguyever"s post in the same post that you quoted?



Riot Of The Blood said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
coolestguyever said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but PS3 version of DMC4 did it in 1 week with a much smaller install base. Own3d!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but no one gives a shit. DMC =/= Suda 51 game.

The SDF is on patrol tonight.


 Hey, Claude, what's your secret? How do manage to troll and flame all the time and get away with it? When I do it, there's always a mod on my back. Teach me your ways.


 Uh cause Claude makes his comments on topic and flames those who are not on topic. 

DMC4 is not NMH, therefore NOT on topic.

Eeveryone expected bad sales out of NMH to see it hit 100k is a decent achivement, hopefully it can get some more and we can get another one or more like it. 



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Riot Of The Blood said: 

 Hey, Claude, what's your secret? How do manage to troll and flame all the time and get away with it? When I do it, there's always a mod on my back. Teach me your ways.


 Because he responded to a troll/flame?

NMH wasn't heavily advertised and didn't ship many copies, hence why 100k is a pretty big deal, especially after it was DoA in Japan.

This isn't just another game. This is a game which had "flop" written all over it before its NA launch. 100k is amazing for it.

I was expecting MAYBE 20k for this game in the first few months. Suda's games just have a history of poor sales, sadly. 



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Wow, this thread has spawned a lot more discussion than I expected. I was just happy to see the strong hold this game has demonstrated thus far, as the pictures of Suda and Wada at the Japanese launch were so depressing.

Comparing DMC4, a highly-promoted sequel in a famous, popular franchise to No More Heroes, a new, unproven IP that is possessed of an advertising ghost town and a little-known punk rock developer of unabashedly niche and notoriously low-selling games is one of the silliest things I've ever heard.



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Riot Of The Blood said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
coolestguyever said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but PS3 version of DMC4 did it in 1 week with a much smaller install base. Own3d!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but no one gives a shit. DMC =/= Suda 51 game.

The SDF is on patrol tonight.


Hey, Claude, what's your secret? How do manage to troll and flame all the time and get away with it? When I do it, there's always a mod on my back. Teach me your ways.


 Riot; may I please point out to you the post that claude quoted.

 "Sorry to burst your bubble, but PS3 version of DMC4 did it in 1 week with a much smaller install base. Own3d!"

Claude merely took the bait for a massive piece of trolling/flamebaiting, comparing NMH to DMC4 is like mocking DMC4 because it couldn't match the week one sales of Halo3. In other words, its stupid. In other words, Claude is actually right.

Maybe mods don't ban people for flaming pure stupidity. 



mrstickball said:
Thanks for the bashing guys. Really means alot to me.

I find it interesting that you compare it to Dynasty Warriors and Devil May Cry, yet neither are open-world, overhead mapping, nor have quirky side quests, nor use an economy system (as far as I can remember for DW), and also interesting that they use Grand Theft Auto in many of the comparisons (both similarities and glaring differences) - all of which GTA/NMH share in common, and none (despite being somewhat decently big elements of both NMH/GTA) aren't in the games your comparing it to.


Very mature guys. Very mature. Even then, 100k in 3 weeks is still bad. Hopefully it keeps selling, as it looks like a great game. But you gotta call a duck a duck :)




 In all honesty, what kind of response did you expect with a comment like in your first post? You both insulted the game and it's relative success with just a few words. Some people may have over-reacted in response to you, but I imagine you expected that when you first posted.

Being a part of vgchartz, you should realize that "success" is relative to many things. 100k in 3 weeks is bad for some games, yet others it's not. You should know by now that some games start off slow, then go on to become genuine hit games. Pretty much everyone who predicted the game to be a hit also thought it would debut with strong sales. Everyone else knew it would either quickly disappear, or slowly make it's way into being a hit. It certainly looks like it's inching towards being a hit, but I think it's still too early to make that call. If the vgchartz numbers are on the ball, I'd consider it something of a success right now, but not a hit. 

 



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GooseGaws said:
Wow, this thread has spawned a lot more discussion than I expected. I was just happy to see the strong hold this game has demonstrated thus far, as the pictures of Suda and Wada at the Japanese launch were so depressing.

Comparing DMC4, a highly-promoted sequel in a famous, popular franchise to No More Heroes, a new, unproven IP that is possessed of an advertising ghost town and a little-known punk rock developer of unabashedly niche and notoriously low-selling games is one of the silliest things I've ever heard.

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Now it is time for some massive crow eating.
http://kotaku.com/356877/no-more-heroes-does-ok-in-america-probably-better-in-europe

The game already shipped 240k and considering what the article says, it will likely reach 500k shipped units lifetime.

The award for the most foolish statement about NMH sales goes to starcraft. He said on another thread that the game is a failure and would not turn any profit, proving once again that 3rd parties can`t succeed on the Wii.



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ItsaMii said:
Now it is time for some massive crow eating.
http://kotaku.com/356877/no-more-heroes-does-ok-in-america-probably-better-in-europe

The game already shipped 240k and considering what the article says, it will likely reach 500k shipped units lifetime.

The award for the most foolish statement about NMH sales goes to starcraft. He said on another thread that the game is a failure and would not turn any profit, proving once again that 3rd parties can`t succeed on the Wii.


Well that and they apparently through a party over it's success.

So... it was selling well enough to be excited about.  Apparently it was even cake worthy.