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Lawlight on 16 November 2013
KingdomHeartsFan said:
Lawlight said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

I still can't believe they had interns making the launch systems...huge mistake by Sony imo especially considering from the story the interns were studying completely different subjects and knew nothing about this.


Try to think before you post.

Try to make sure your posts actually have a point instead of just being useless and making you sound like a jerk.


The point was pretty clear.



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osed125 on 16 November 2013
Mmmfishtacos said:
osed125 said:

Of course not. Companies can't check every single product they produce, they can however do tests on a single product of a batch. If one product of a single batch doesn't meet their quality standards, they throw all that batch to the trash, sounds extreme, but that's how a lot of companies work. Depending on how the company works, this batches can be every 100 products to every 5000 products, the smaller they are, the percentages of having more issues becomes lower. And all of this I mentioned is Sony's job and not Foxconn's problem.

My point is that if this rumors are true, plus depending on how big the failures rate, this isn't fully Foxconn's fault. If this speculation becomes true, Sony will also have some of the fault. 

But we just have to wait for hard numbers. Until then all I mentioned above is speculation.

 

Sigh... Foxcon is responsible for their QA checks. Sony will also test a bunch of systems to make sure it meets their standards. Foxcon is responsible for any bad systems they sent out. Knowing they are faulty or not. It’s very likely the ones Sony tested from this site where fine or they would have halted the whole line. Figured out the problem and then fixed it.

Source?



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Cobretti2 on 16 November 2013
Mmmfishtacos said:

General public will forget about it before it's a real thing. Seems they've already halted production to get to the bottom of this issue. I'm sure Sony suits are all over the factory now. Foxcon will get slammed for this. And if Foxcon don’t like the fine Sony is about to charge them then Sony will take their PS4 somewhere else. And Foxcon wants to build those 80-100 million consoles so Foxcon will comply. There’s nothing the chines government can do. I wouldn’t worry about Sony’s brand name it will be fine. 


I am sure they will forget, hence why I hope the issue is rectified sooner rather than later. Eventually we shoudl see more 5 star amazon raitings once the issues have been sorted.



 

 

Mmmfishtacos on 16 November 2013
osed125 said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
osed125 said:

Of course not. Companies can't check every single product they produce, they can however do tests on a single product of a batch. If one product of a single batch doesn't meet their quality standards, they throw all that batch to the trash, sounds extreme, but that's how a lot of companies work. Depending on how the company works, this batches can be every 100 products to every 5000 products, the smaller they are, the percentages of having more issues becomes lower. And all of this I mentioned is Sony's job and not Foxconn's problem.

My point is that if this rumors are true, plus depending on how big the failures rate, this isn't fully Foxconn's fault. If this speculation becomes true, Sony will also have some of the fault. 

But we just have to wait for hard numbers. Until then all I mentioned above is speculation.

 

Sigh... Foxcon is responsible for their QA checks. Sony will also test a bunch of systems to make sure it meets their standards. Foxcon is responsible for any bad systems they sent out. Knowing they are faulty or not. It’s very likely the ones Sony tested from this site where fine or they would have halted the whole line. Figured out the problem and then fixed it.

Source?

 

lol.  okay I’m done here. You don't know what you’re talking about, and then you ask for a Source for something that is common in the manufacturing world... Pro tip all manufacturers of any product are required to perform QA checks to the buyers specification. The buyer in this case is Sony.  



osed125 on 16 November 2013
Mmmfishtacos said:
osed125 said:
Mmmfishtacos said:

 

Sigh... Foxcon is responsible for their QA checks. Sony will also test a bunch of systems to make sure it meets their standards. Foxcon is responsible for any bad systems they sent out. Knowing they are faulty or not. It’s very likely the ones Sony tested from this site where fine or they would have halted the whole line. Figured out the problem and then fixed it.

Source?

 

lol.  okay I’m done here. You don't know what you’re talking about, and then you ask for a Source for something that is common in the manufacturing world... Pro tip all manufacturers of any product are required to perform QA checks to the buyers specification. The buyer in this case is Sony.  

Please ignore my ignorance. Source?



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Cobretti2 on 16 November 2013
osed125 said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
osed125 said:

Let's say this is true and Foxconn was indeed sabotaging PS4 consoles. Isn't Sony supposed to check if the consoles are reaching their quality standards? They will just leave Foxconn do whatever they want with their product without checking how manufacturing is going? I don't buy it.

I said again, if this is true (which I personally doubt), Sony has some blame for this, not all of it, because that of course goes to Foxconn employees, but Sony isn't completely safe from the blame.

 

Do you think they can check every console? Don't think so. The number is still on the low side of failure rates. Wouldn't surprise me if they ones they did pull worked just fine. So is only to blame if their engineering is wrong, if the console is DOA it’s Foxcons fault.

Of course not. Companies can't check every single product they produce, they can however do tests on a single product of a batch. If one product of a single batch doesn't meet their quality standards, they throw all that batch to the trash, sounds extreme, but that's how a lot of companies work. Depending on how the company works, this batches can be every 100 products to every 5000 products, the smaller they are, the percentages of having more issues becomes lower. And all of this I mentioned is Sony's job and not Foxconn's problem.

My point is that if this rumors are true, plus depending on how big the failures rate, this isn't fully Foxconn's fault. If this speculation becomes true, Sony will also have some of the fault. 

But we just have to wait for hard numbers. Until then all I mentioned above is speculation.

 

Actually it depends on the quality level they set their acceptance criteria on. Also the batches would be at least 50,000 if not more, so they would sample about 500-800 depending on the quality level selected.  THe fialure rate may be like 3-5 console per batch



 

 

Mr Khan on 16 November 2013

It's not impossible: sabotaging a high profile product launch would be a good way of lodging protest in a country where going on strike is deemed counterrevolutionary



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Damagon on 16 November 2013

The original story in August said the interns never actually dealt with the PS4 (they're interns not experienced fast employees... ) they were put to do the more mundane tasks , which is what caused the outrage to begin with. Placing stickers, packing, cleaning, and all sorts of hand work that didn't actually require manufacturing/assembling hardware.

If you've ever worked in manufacturing or at an assembly line, you'd know exactly what position these guys were given, and why they were so angry. You'd also know why sabotage, at least to this level, cannot possibly be true.



Landguy on 16 November 2013
attaboy said:
coolguy said:
These interns should be lined up and shot


Leave Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson out of this!

Wow, two in a row, you ar on a roll!



It is near the end of the end....

PullusPardus on 16 November 2013
Darth Tigris said:
Really? Nobody is doubting this, even a little??? SERIOUSLY???

Is this really what we've come to???

I know right? Hardware goes through testing before it is sold, how is this possible? It's probably fake.