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tripenfall said:
Ninjahound101 said:
gergroy said:
So you are ignoring downloadable games then?


Yes, i simply don't feelas if the affect the console much


Not sure if serious....

I am serious look at TLoZ WW HD, when it was released digitally WiiU picked up a little, the physical release gave WiiU a huge bump

Unless the game is super popular not many people buy a console for a digital title



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I think that there's a need to add "I hope for" at the end of this thread's title. In no way will PS4 and Xone suffer from such terrible support in their first year. What happened to the WiiU is unprecedented and has had its consequences. Most third parties will be ready to support these consoles after seeing such massive sales. Nintendo themselves weren't able to support their console, why would third parties do it?

Wii U will have more of these droughts from now until its final days. Jusstl ook at Wii's final 3 years, but make it worse, way worse.



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The 2014 line up for PS4 and Xbox one is pretty sketchy at the moment - at least in the early months. Drive Club, Infamous and Titan Fall are likely to be some quality exclusives, but thats 2 games in 3 months. If the consoles launch strong though I'm sure some of the games delayed from 2013 will be clamouring for a release around then though - Watch Dogs, The Crew etc as well as stuff like Witcher 3.

I think a key difference for draughts between Xbox One / Ps4 and Wii U is online - downloadable games are a bigger deal to PS4 / Xbox owners and will easily fill any void of retail releases. And of course, online gaming is a bigger deal too, I'll still be playing Killzone and FIFA 14 online well into March next year and beyond, so while a draught sucks it's not like I can't use my console lol.



Mr Khan said:
ps4tw said:

Hahahahaha.

WiiU lanches without the ability to play 8th gen games, and doesn't showcase any graphical prowess over the much cheaper, and already established, PS3 and xbox.

Saying it is down to simply how many games are out is just wrong. People here are really clutching at straws trying to big up the WiiU.

Wii U games are 8th gen, categorically. To state otherwise is revisionism.

No it isn't. The Wii U gets 7th gen ports so why instantly is everything on it 8th gen? They arent. If I go and play MGS on my PS3 its not suddenly a 5th gen console is it? Its a 5th gen game on a 7th gen console. Im waiting for a real 8th gen game to appear on the wiiu as everything at the moment seems to be just what the xbox and ps3 can already do. 



ps4tw said:
Mr Khan said:
ps4tw said:

Hahahahaha.

WiiU lanches without the ability to play 8th gen games, and doesn't showcase any graphical prowess over the much cheaper, and already established, PS3 and xbox.

Saying it is down to simply how many games are out is just wrong. People here are really clutching at straws trying to big up the WiiU.

Wii U games are 8th gen, categorically. To state otherwise is revisionism.

No it isn't. The Wii U gets 7th gen ports so why instantly is everything on it 8th gen? They arent. If I go and play MGS on my PS3 its not suddenly a 5th gen console is it? Its a 5th gen game on a 7th gen console. Im waiting for a real 8th gen game to appear on the wiiu as everything at the moment seems to be just what the xbox and ps3 can already do. 

I meant games developed for Wii U originally.



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ps4tw said:
Ninjahound101 said:
gergroy said:
So you are ignoring downloadable games then?


Yes, i simply don't feelas if the affect the console much


Quick, someone tell steam their console wont have any games!!!!

Quick, someone tell valve that their new company name is steam!!!



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Ninjahound101 said:
DialgaMarine said:
No offense, but this an obvious Nintendo bias outlook. A simple look at PS4/ XBone game preorders in the US alone prove how wrong this statement is. Not only are there tons more games being released on the systems from here on out, they're also going to sell substantially better than the Wii-U. Wii-U is last gen hardware with nothing but poor third party ports and the same old same old Nintendo first party titles releasing for it. Third party support isn't an issue with the PS4/ XBone and that's going to become more and more apparent as the next gen consoles move on and leave the Wii-U behind.


Sure they'll have tons of games later on, but there is a drought

As for last gen hardware that is only half true as most of the WiiU hardware is a combination of different pieces and parts that are still not known for the most part

Third Parties will be very active on PS4/XBONE but that doesn't mean that WiiU will be left behind, if Nintendo manages to maintain a pace similar to that of 2014 through 2015/2016 the WiiU will probably lead but doing that is Nintendo's job not mine

 I still call BS on the whole "Wii-U power is divided among it's parts, hence why it appears weak" argument. Even if that were the case, it wouldn't matter because the gamepad is such a vital piece to the system/ experience that taking it away to make a better looking game would literally take away the value of the console. Let's face it; that second is pretty much the one thing that the Wii-U has going for it. Regardless, even without it, the system would still be leaps and bounds behind PS4, hardware wise, and only somewhat better than PS360. 

Problem with the third party and Nintendo is that third party has pretty already left Wii-U behind. EA was never really there, Activision is just kindof hovering around, Ubisoft is still giving strong support though nothing exclusive like they originally planned, and of course there's Capcom but how long is that company going to last? Nintendo fans pretty much blew Nintendo's chance at strong third party out of the water when 1) barely any of them actually bought the console and 2) out of the ones that did, an even smaller percentage actually bought any of the third party titles. I mean even BO Declassified sold better than BO2 on Wii-U, so you know somethings wrong there. Third party is already on board with the 8th gen consoles, and it's already paid off handsomely for them in the short run, let alone the long. 

The Wii-U game drought came from Nintendo's loss of actual third party support. PS4/ XBone won't have that problem.





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Seece said:

No. WiiU didn't have a drought if you just count any old games. WiiU had a drought in decent noticeable software, something xbox one definitely does not have.

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Good heavens.  I'm all for saying that situations between Wii-U and PS4/XBone are different, but saying Wii-U had a drought in "noticeable software" and then listing the underlined games kinda makes it seem like you're trying to sabotage your own argument.  Late ports are what got the Wii-U into this mess in the first place and counting DLC as "noticeable software", really?

Also, I can't find anywhere that says D4 is scheduled for a January release, got a link for that?  All I'm finding is the first episode will be Q1.



Well, if PS4 ends up having mega bad drought like my Wii U had, I'll just have to stick with plan A which is to get The Last of Us, Beyond and crack on with Super Mario 3D World etc. No biggie.



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PattonFiend said:


Not trying to convince anyone. This thread is lacking in facts though. I would hate to be the kind of person that is accepting of opinions over reality. These developers have already stated how amazing the Wii U is and how they still have not found out a way to maximize the graphical output becuse they are still learning the console and it's processes. Good thing we have developers like Criterion though leading the way and basing our games off of PC specs that blow the prior generation out of the water.

Compare Perfect Dark launch game on 360 and then Gears of War and that says it all. There is no huge leap this generation, not what you all expected anyway. If you want to get technical, we can talk about how the PS4 AND XB1 are years behind current PC gaming consoles. If you want to bring facts into the argument.

First bolded part in relation to the second bolded part is pure gold :D

So you boast at how NFS MW in WiiU blows PS360 versions out of the water, but then say regarding PS4/X1 that there is no huge leap this generation, this made me chuckle so much xD But I know, I know, games on your console of choice always look better. 

Btw. About that first post of yours regarding developers learning the hardware of Wii U and optimising the engines, I recommend you check the Digital Foundry comparisons of Call of Duty Ghosts for Wii U/PS3/360 and Batman Arkham Origins for the said platforms, both games are second generation games for Wii U, see for yourself how much "progress" developers made :D and Criterion is EA owned, probably will be some time until they will make another Wii U game.



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