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chapset said:
stage 5: acceptance


You are amazing! I laughed a lot :)



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NeoRatt said:
There are no graphical issues on either console.

A typical person playing games will not notice a difference between the two consoles.

Sure, if you freeze a game, take a screen shot and put them side-by-side you can tear one or the other apart, but when people are playing they are not going to be thinking, "Geez my version stinks compared to the other console"...

Also, the X1 is not under powered. As compared to most typical gaming PCs it will run circles around them. So to say it is under-powered is only when compared to a $3,000 gaming PC or the PS4... Compared to the Wii U, 90% of PCs, and most other consumer devices it is a powerhouse. And while Sony fans like to talk about their technical specs, the generation will be long and as it progresses things will be more about the cloud, streaming games, and other things related to the architecture of the consoles.

I don't get why Microsoft fans always attack Sony fans in these topics, lol, never the Nintendo gamers or PC gamers.

 

I can buy a $500 PC that runs circles around the Xbone, btw.

 

GPU -  $120  http://www.amazon.com/Asus-HD7850-DC-1GD5-ASUS-Graphics-Card/dp/B00A6GC5VK/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384310132&sr=1-7&keywords=radeon+7850

Mobo - $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128504

500GB Hard drive - $40 http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-ES-ST3500630NS-internal/dp/B000R2GC08/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1384309873&sr=1-1&keywords=hard+drive

RAM - $70 http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Tactical-DDR3-1600-BLT8G3D1608ET3LX0/dp/B00A14ZTTM/ref=sr_1_26?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384308744&sr=1-26&keywords=8gb+ram

CPU - $80 http://www.provantage.com/amd-ad750kwohjbox~7AAMD2U6.htm

Case - $30  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005869A7K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B005869A7K&linkCode=as2&tag=c09_11-20

PSU - $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Keyboard and mouse - $20  http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Desktop-MK120-Mouse-keyboard/dp/B003NREDC8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384309309&sr=1-1&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

OS - Steam OS, Linux. - $0

Total? - $435

Want windows?

OS - $90 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q0PT3I/ref=as_li_ss_tlie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004Q0PT3I&linkCode=as2&tag=c09_11-20

$525 overall.

Xbone = $500 + 6% tax = $530.

And that PC build is IF you want windows, if you already have windows or don't want it, you can use that extra $90 to get a 7870 and a better CPU. 

 

So yeah.



yo_john117 said:
"It seems like it's turning out that next gen textures and effects is a bigger deal than resolution. 720P as long as it has next textures and effects is fine. XO games will be a big step up from 360 ones even at the same 720P resolution Sure 1080P is preferable, but it's not a dealbreaker."

What you said here is exactly true.

IMO anyone who says otherwise isn't a good gamer (or in other words, they care more about the console wars BS than they do about actual games which makes them petty and sad).


You're basically slapping every PC gamer in the face sir......Please continue.



I am the Playstation Avenger.

   

chapset said:
stage 5: acceptance


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Daisuke72 said:
NeoRatt said:
There are no graphical issues on either console.

A typical person playing games will not notice a difference between the two consoles.

Sure, if you freeze a game, take a screen shot and put them side-by-side you can tear one or the other apart, but when people are playing they are not going to be thinking, "Geez my version stinks compared to the other console"...

Also, the X1 is not under powered. As compared to most typical gaming PCs it will run circles around them. So to say it is under-powered is only when compared to a $3,000 gaming PC or the PS4... Compared to the Wii U, 90% of PCs, and most other consumer devices it is a powerhouse. And while Sony fans like to talk about their technical specs, the generation will be long and as it progresses things will be more about the cloud, streaming games, and other things related to the architecture of the consoles.

I don't get why Microsoft fans always attack Sony fans in these topics, lol, never the Nintendo gamers or PC gamers.

 

I can buy a $500 PC that runs circles around the Xbone, btw.

 

GPU -  $120  http://www.amazon.com/Asus-HD7850-DC-1GD5-ASUS-Graphics-Card/dp/B00A6GC5VK/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384310132&sr=1-7&keywords=radeon+7850

Mobo - $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128504

500GB Hard drive - $40 http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-ES-ST3500630NS-internal/dp/B000R2GC08/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1384309873&sr=1-1&keywords=hard+drive

RAM - $70 http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Tactical-DDR3-1600-BLT8G3D1608ET3LX0/dp/B00A14ZTTM/ref=sr_1_26?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384308744&sr=1-26&keywords=8gb+ram

CPU - $80 http://www.provantage.com/amd-ad750kwohjbox~7AAMD2U6.htm

Case - $30  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005869A7K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B005869A7K&linkCode=as2&tag=c09_11-20

PSU - $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Keyboard and mouse - $20  http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Desktop-MK120-Mouse-keyboard/dp/B003NREDC8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384309309&sr=1-1&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

OS - Steam OS, Linux. - $0

Total? - $435

Want windows?

OS - $90 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q0PT3I/ref=as_li_ss_tlie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004Q0PT3I&linkCode=as2&tag=c09_11-20

$525 overall.

Xbone = $500 + 6% tax = $530.

And that PC build is IF you want windows, if you already have windows or don't want it, you can use that extra $90 to get a 7870 and a better CPU. 

 

So yeah.

 

That pc is total garbage you just put together. 



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Vasto said:
Daisuke72 said:
NeoRatt said:
There are no graphical issues on either console.

A typical person playing games will not notice a difference between the two consoles.

Sure, if you freeze a game, take a screen shot and put them side-by-side you can tear one or the other apart, but when people are playing they are not going to be thinking, "Geez my version stinks compared to the other console"...

Also, the X1 is not under powered. As compared to most typical gaming PCs it will run circles around them. So to say it is under-powered is only when compared to a $3,000 gaming PC or the PS4... Compared to the Wii U, 90% of PCs, and most other consumer devices it is a powerhouse. And while Sony fans like to talk about their technical specs, the generation will be long and as it progresses things will be more about the cloud, streaming games, and other things related to the architecture of the consoles.

I don't get why Microsoft fans always attack Sony fans in these topics, lol, never the Nintendo gamers or PC gamers.

 

I can buy a $500 PC that runs circles around the Xbone, btw.

 

GPU -  $120  http://www.amazon.com/Asus-HD7850-DC-1GD5-ASUS-Graphics-Card/dp/B00A6GC5VK/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384310132&sr=1-7&keywords=radeon+7850

Mobo - $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128504

500GB Hard drive - $40 http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-ES-ST3500630NS-internal/dp/B000R2GC08/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1384309873&sr=1-1&keywords=hard+drive

RAM - $70 http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Tactical-DDR3-1600-BLT8G3D1608ET3LX0/dp/B00A14ZTTM/ref=sr_1_26?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384308744&sr=1-26&keywords=8gb+ram

CPU - $80 http://www.provantage.com/amd-ad750kwohjbox~7AAMD2U6.htm

Case - $30  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005869A7K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B005869A7K&linkCode=as2&tag=c09_11-20

PSU - $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Keyboard and mouse - $20  http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Desktop-MK120-Mouse-keyboard/dp/B003NREDC8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384309309&sr=1-1&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

OS - Steam OS, Linux. - $0

Total? - $435

Want windows?

OS - $90 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q0PT3I/ref=as_li_ss_tlie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004Q0PT3I&linkCode=as2&tag=c09_11-20

$525 overall.

Xbone = $500 + 6% tax = $530.

And that PC build is IF you want windows, if you already have windows or don't want it, you can use that extra $90 to get a 7870 and a better CPU. 

 

So yeah.

 

That pc is total garbage you just put together. 

Much better GPU, CPU on the same performance level, and you can overclock both, how is the PC total garbage for the price? It EASILY outpeforms the Xbone so I guess that's total garbage as well, huh? 



yo_john117 said:
"It seems like it's turning out that next gen textures and effects is a bigger deal than resolution. 720P as long as it has next textures and effects is fine. XO games will be a big step up from 360 ones even at the same 720P resolution Sure 1080P is preferable, but it's not a dealbreaker."

What you said here is exactly true.

IMO anyone who says otherwise isn't a good gamer (or in other words, they care more about the console wars BS than they do about actual games which makes them petty and sad).

Exactly!

I sure wish all the mods would adopt this perspective here and moderate accordingly.  It sure would make this community better.



Darth Tigris said:
yo_john117 said:
"It seems like it's turning out that next gen textures and effects is a bigger deal than resolution. 720P as long as it has next textures and effects is fine. XO games will be a big step up from 360 ones even at the same 720P resolution Sure 1080P is preferable, but it's not a dealbreaker."

What you said here is exactly true.

IMO anyone who says otherwise isn't a good gamer (or in other words, they care more about the console wars BS than they do about actual games which makes them petty and sad).

Exactly!

I sure wish all the mods would adopt this perspective here and moderate accordingly.  It sure would make this community better.


Not really



enditall727 said:
Darth Tigris said:
yo_john117 said:
"It seems like it's turning out that next gen textures and effects is a bigger deal than resolution. 720P as long as it has next textures and effects is fine. XO games will be a big step up from 360 ones even at the same 720P resolution Sure 1080P is preferable, but it's not a dealbreaker."

What you said here is exactly true.

IMO anyone who says otherwise isn't a good gamer (or in other words, they care more about the console wars BS than they do about actual games which makes them petty and sad).

Exactly!

I sure wish all the mods would adopt this perspective here and moderate accordingly.  It sure would make this community better.


Not really

Should we eliminate Nintendo games from games comparison in terms of quality then?

They just jumped to HD era and their games is second to none at sub-HD.

1080p hysteria is something new, post-October 2013.



yo_john117 said:
"It seems like it's turning out that next gen textures and effects is a bigger deal than resolution. 720P as long as it has next textures and effects is fine. XO games will be a big step up from 360 ones even at the same 720P resolution Sure 1080P is preferable, but it's not a dealbreaker."

What you said here is exactly true.

IMO anyone who says otherwise isn't a good gamer (or in other words, they care more about the console wars BS than they do about actual games which makes them petty and sad).

True dat!

Till graphics look like real life, so many other things are more imporant than resolution.  But it's harder to have wars about that.   Look at CGI-Qualty's treads for some other things going on that just resolution. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=171568&page=1



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!