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ryuzaki57 said:

Salnax said:

X (Could be the FF7 of a new generation.)

That can be said about any next-gen JRPG since we don't know the first thing about X


But we know plenty about Xenoblade and X is from the same developers.



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Salnax said:

Let me Review Nintendo's 2014 Console Lineup:

  • Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Will likely only get around 80% on Metacritic, but will likely have at least 4 million sales)
  • Yarn Yoshi (May sell a million or two, will have good reviews.)
  • Super Smash Bros 4 (Will have good reviews and sell at least 7 million)
  • Mario Kart 8 (Will have good reviews and sell to a third of Wii U owners.)
  • X (Could be the FF7 of a new generation.)
  • Bayonetta 2 (Will probably be a critical hit, but not sell much)
  • Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem (Will be a huge deal among a niche crowd, likely will become the best seller in console history for at least one of the two franchises.)

Also, some multiplat games

  • Watch Dogs
  • Project Cars
  • Call of Duty 11
  • Skylanders 4

That's already about a dozen major games, and Nintendo is infamous for not announcing stuff until as late as possible. This should easily be the best year for Nintendo console fans since 2010.


There´s still a mysterious new franchise that Miyamoto is currently working on and another mysterious project that Retro started after finishing DKCR:TF. So expect a few more surprises next year.

There are a few third party efforts coming besides those you wrote, too: Lego City Movie, Child of Light, Taiko no Tatsujin WiiU, Formula One 



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ryuzaki57 said:

Salnax said:

X (Could be the FF7 of a new generation.)

That can be said about any next-gen JRPG since we don't know the first thing about X


I was thinking specifically in terms of an existing franchise from a developer getting a much bigger installbase on a new platform. If X is anywhere near the quality of Xenoblade, is released in a timely matter, and is not hindered by the lack of availability that Xenoblade was, it could easily sell 2 million copies worldwide.



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Rogerioandrade said:
Salnax said:

Let me Review Nintendo's 2014 Console Lineup:

  • Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Will likely only get around 80% on Metacritic, but will likely have at least 4 million sales)
  • Yarn Yoshi (May sell a million or two, will have good reviews.)
  • Super Smash Bros 4 (Will have good reviews and sell at least 7 million)
  • Mario Kart 8 (Will have good reviews and sell to a third of Wii U owners.)
  • X (Could be the FF7 of a new generation.)
  • Bayonetta 2 (Will probably be a critical hit, but not sell much)
  • Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem (Will be a huge deal among a niche crowd, likely will become the best seller in console history for at least one of the two franchises.)

Also, some multiplat games

  • Watch Dogs
  • Project Cars
  • Call of Duty 11
  • Skylanders 4

That's already about a dozen major games, and Nintendo is infamous for not announcing stuff until as late as possible. This should easily be the best year for Nintendo console fans since 2010.


There´s still a mysterious new franchise that Miyamoto is currently working on and another mysterious project that Retro started after finishing DKCR:TF. So expect a few more surprises next year.

There are a few third party efforts coming besides those you wrote, too: Lego City Movie, Child of Light, Taiko no Tatsujin WiiU, Formula One 


I'm expecting Retro's mystery game to, along with Zelda Wii U, be the core lineup of the system in 2015.

You're right, there will be plenty of 3rd party support for at least some types of games. I just was focusing on what seemed to be "major" 3rd party titles. THat said, I forgot all about Taiko no Tatsuji!



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Of course it won't be discontinued. A company would only do it with a console/handheld if they decide to leave the market like Sega. If 3DS and Wii U had flopped, then maybe they would be forced to leave, but even then I think Nintendo would survive (now, two gens in a row with both flopping would be to much).

Let's say Wii U does GameCube sales level (that's pretty much the worst case). Then, Nintendo will probably launch a successor in 2017-2019 and discontinue Wii U a year latter.

So it is secure. About sales, I don't see it improving a lot. The launch of both competitors with tons of AAA exclusives and massive third party launches with a lot of advertisement and stealing all media attention will probably kill any chance to reach higher sales.



"2014 has by far the BEST lineup (atleast in my opinion) of exclusives in gaming history."

theoretically I wouldn't bother to reply to that since it's fine if you think so, but I heard this sentence (with changed date) so often I just need to make clear that a lot can still change.
Especially Nintendo who delayed their HD games quite often in the past. Don't expect everything to make the cut.



Never thought it was doomed.



Wii U`s recente fortunes, or misfortunes if you will, are the result of things that take time to resolv.
When you don`t prepare games to come out on a timely basis, such strategy takes time to be corrected;
When people don`t know about your console, it takes time to show people what it is and what it does.

Slowly, people`s perception on Wii U has been changing and that´s a very positive sign.
It`s not because of graphics suddenly improved for Wii U, but because the games shown by Nintendo interested gamers and things like slow OS have also been improved.

For next year, Wii U does have a great exclusive line-up. But that`s just the stuff we know. And even then, no one really knows a lot of those titles.
8 titles that can make for a good and steady release schedule, when XB1 and PS4 will probably be facing droughts.

I believe there`s more to come for Wii U and hope/believe that things will only improve.



Soundwave said:
Play4Fun said:


Multiplats  and horsepower aren't what's going to sell the WiiU. First party games and the occasional 3rd party exclusives/collaborations (such as Sonic: LW, M & S: ATOG, B2, SMT x FE, lego City Undercover) plus advertising is what the Wii U needs.

And what do you mean "this time" Wii U can't generate visuals compared to Ps4/Xbone? Wii could when compared to PS360?

When it comes to the power gap Wii U is in a WAY better position compared to it's competition than Wii ever was.


I think the audience for third party multiplats is pretty much all but gone from Nintendo after years of being non-factor in that area. People who want the big multi-plat third party games are virtually Sony/MS only these days. 

See: the PS4 version of CoD: Ghosts outselling the Wii U version in the UK charts even though the PS4 isn't even out yet, lol. Wii U is basically a non-factor. 

Nintendo's challenge this gen is really going to boil down to how many of the casuals they grabbed with the original Wii they can convince to come back and pay $200+ for a Wii U in the post iPhone world. 

sure, because it would be so different if ps4 had already released, in regard to already preordered games (rollseye). this is such a low excuse for an argument that even I got surprised.

I highly recomend you to NOT speak for other people, especially when what you say is the opposite of what those people would say.