that why i think that they should put the update on cd, and ship it with the consoles itself.

Sounds like Best Buy's Geek Squad which charges outrageous prices to hook up computer and install basic software like antivirus.

My opinion is that a product should work upon purchase and not require any patchwork. The video game industry disagrees, so I will bend over and take it.

If people read the reversal policy properly, they would of known this months ago.

No big deal anyway.

i agree, but just like @CGI-quality said," this is a digital age now," 

the time when you could buy a new console, and just plug in and play, are  gone unfortunately...

This is old news but what I wanted to know, is if I can download the patch even if I am not in the territories the X1 is available on because I do plan to import in the near future. (financially possible anyway)

Let's move on people...

All computers, smart phones, and consoles require patching to be on the Internet and to fix bugs.

The operating system of the PS4 and X1 consoles probably have over 50,000,000 lines of code. For people to believe that would ship bug free on day one is unrealistic.

Games probably have 10's of millions of lines of code... Again, for people to think they would be completely bug free is unrealistic.

Also, be prepared for frequent updates of both consoles in the first few months... New hardware, new operating systems, and new online patterns will not be smooth for either vendor.

Do I think everything should be perfect as a consumer... Yes... Is it realistic to expect everything will be perfect? No...

was knows since they changed their politics. how else should the console know that it doesn't need a 24 hour check anymore if you don't tell this the console per patch? but i bet some people on this neogaf everyone is always talking about complain hard about this now even if the were the guys who complained about the 24h check and should be happy about the change.

Good question, i have no clue

i understand what you mean, but, without the Xbox one update, you can't do anything.

Also, smartphones and computers aren't entirely applicable; i don't know about you, but my smartphone is always connected to the internet, and for the most part, it's the same with my computer. My consoles on the other hand, are not always connected to internet, and what about the people that don't have access to good internet?

Again, i do understand the need for a day one update, it just seems troublesome that you can't do anything without it. One more thing that i don't understand, is that if the ps4 had drm, but the patch takes it away, but you can still play games without installing the update, why can't you play games on the Xbox one without installing the update?