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Should Nintendo have a Trophy/ Achievement system?

Hell Yeah! 116 27.36%
 
Mabye 19 4.48%
 
Good to have, but I really don't care 161 37.97%
 
Nah 123 29.01%
 
Total:419

How the hell can trophies and achievements be that important to anyone?! I will never understand, I think they're just annoying and serve absolutely no purpose at all.



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I think achievements can actually be a nice addition to a game when they're designed to encourage the player to try out alternative playstyles and enjoy the game in a way they might not have thought of. Like getting through a specific section without being detected by an enemy, fighting a certain boss using without using (or by using nothing buta specific weapon/item/gadget, et cetera. It can be a way for the developer to tell you "Hey, man, play like you wanna play, but you can also do it like this if you want to. Just saying", which is something I much prefer to getting smacked in the face with a tutorial that shows us just how we're supposed to enjoy the game, or having my options limited by a compulsory stealth section or randomly getting my equipment snatched away. Those kinds of achievements are great. And of course, about as common as polio.

Most achievements are either ineluctable, which you get merely by progressing in the game ("You started the game!" "You beat the first boss!" "You beat the second boss!"), a way to add a side objective of sorts in hopes of getting the player to play (just one with no in-game rewards at all), or just an additional "bling!" that accompanies the completion of an actual in-game side mission, presumably added because the developer could not come up with an in-game reward to make it ultimately feel worthwhile and/or because actually doing the side quest was just not fun enough. Those kinds of achievements are nothing but irritating to those of us who are not into the whole, uuuhh... metagame of comparing and showing off your achievements, don't really offer any motivation, and I feel like their presence sometimes even deprives the game I'm playing of its full value, as things that would've been integrated directly into the game in the past have been replaced by a cheap pop-up.



forest-spirit said:
I'm really, really glad I never got into the whole achievement collection thingy, otherwise I'd probably prefer The Conduit over Knights of the Old Republic and that would suck balls. Well, on the other hand I did waste my time on getting 15 researchers in a single level in A Game of Dwarves so I guess I'm in the risk zone.

But I do find the achievement system interesting. It's apparent that achievements that doesn't get added to a global achievement system are totally worthless. The far majority of games have achievements in one way or the other, like getting all the stars in Mario or Sonic, beating Metroid in under 3hours or defeating Nemesis in Final Fantasy X. But those achievements, and to some extent Steam achievements, really don't count because there's no way to add them all up and show off to friends and foes. Even if getting these achievements mean unlocking content in the game they're still very much inferior.
So one can only assume that it's really not about the achievements themselves but showing them to people in an easy way. It's about bragging rights. And I guess that's why the lack of a "true" achievement system on Nintendo/pre 7th gen systems and to a lesser extent Steam doesn't bother me personally because I don't value such a feature. I do like collecting all the coins in Mario and getting all the heart-pieces in Zelda but I don't worry about whether or not other people can see it. And if I did want to show off I could just post a screenshot on Miiverse or something...

How do we know that's not photoshopped? Only a certified trophy is incontravertable *proof* of your gaming skill.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Although I've done my fair bit of Trophy hunting over the years (and still do) I find it liberating to be able to actually just play a game sometimes without having to worry about what gun I'm shooting an enemy with because I need that 50 kills with the shotgun Trophy.

For that reason I hope Nintendo never implements one. What does it matter if I can jump on 30 Goombas without touching the floor.

Its another reason why for me its all about XBox OR PlayStation PLUS Nintendo.



DialgaMarine said:

So, I recently read an article on N4G that talked about how Nintendo should adopt it's own Trophy/ Achievement system, and it made me realise something. The lack of such a system is the reason why I have yet to purchase a single game for the system and can't enjoy it. I started getting into the whole trophy game when Sony patched it in back in 2008. I'm not sure why, but it's become a crucial part of the gaming experience for me. It adds a whole new side to the gaming experience by creating a fun way for people across a gaming network to compete while at the same showing how well and how much they play the games they enjoy. Virtually every popular gaming network has it nowadays, and it's that Nintendo has still yet to adopt it themselves. For some reason (for me anyways) earning a notional trophy just makes it feel like you got something out of your game, even if you don't technically get anything out of it. I hope Nintendo pulls a Sony and puts some sort of system in place. It would definitely convince me to take my system out of it's box if I could earn a platinum trophy in Mario/ SSB. Mabye it's just me, but hey, even if you guys disagree that it's not necessary to gaming, I'm you can agree that it's a good thing to have nonetheless. Right? What do you guys think? 

Original Article: http://www.vgu.tv/2013/11/07/nintendo-jump-achievement-bandwagon/


You don't mean achievements you mean something like a gamerscore that everyone can see.

Arkham Origins automatically posts your achievements online on the Wii U with a screenshot (if you say yes when it asks).

You want Nintendo to turn that into a, look how many points I got!



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Trophies and achievements is the dumbest reason to play games.



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bananaking21 said:
Rogerioandrade said:
bananaking21 said:
RCTjunkie said:
If you need a trophy/achievement to motivate you to play a game, you're playing for the wrong reasons.....


who are you to judge how people enjoy entertaiment?

Those people are not enjoying games, they are just using them as a way to compete and  fulfill certain aspects of their low self-steem

 


LOL

ill ask you the same question, who are you to judge how people enjoy entertaiment and who are you to give a psychological analysis on millions of gamers and falsely claim they ALL have low self esteem?  way to go to generalize btw.


Lol... hehehehe... relax, bro

don´t take that so seriously. This is internet after all.  I was just being sarcastic.

We could raise a lot of similar questions about it. Why do people judge the ones who doesn´t care about achievements ? Why do people judge the ones who doesn´t care about shooters? Why do people judge the ones who doesn´t care about mature content? Why do people judge the ones who like casual gaming ? why, why ,why....

And... who are you to say what I can do and what I cant ? And who are you to judge anyone´s personal opinion ?

See ? Just take it easy and have fun here.



Achievements are a gimmick like canned laughter in sitcoms.

You sound like one of those people who can't find comedy funny without sitcom canned laughter constantly happening.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

benji232 said:
RCTjunkie said:
If you need a trophy/achievement to motivate you to play a game, you're playing for the wrong reasons.....

/thread

Yes,

osed125 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
RCTjunkie said:
If you need a trophy/achievement to motivate you to play a game, you're playing for the wrong reasons.....


No. He has a point. Microsoft forever changed the amount of time gamers spend gaming with the achievement system. Sony upped the ante with the Trophy system which works you up to a platinum so you can show off your trophies to other players. It doesn't motivate one to play a game, it motivates people to keep games and become a completionist.

So is a dick contest?

And yes.

I wonder why you even got a Wii U in the first place.



curl-6 said:
I don't want trophies/achievements, they're a distracting, worthless gimmick.


Yep. Only worthwhile feature I've seen added in a PS3 firmware update is the option to STFU the stupid trophy system.



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