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Videokameras said:
But if the style is the same. Couldnt it be that rather have the same style than the exact gameplay?
I mean probably people also rather watch movies with the same actor or director than the directly same kind of movie.

If u like kevin spacey kind of movies u might not get satisfied if u watch the same kind with a different actor.

Thats why i like to choose by region

That doesn't help define a genre though. Kevin Spacey films aren't their own genre, you go by the themes the movies present to you.

Same here, the style doesn't tell you much about the game, the mechanics do.



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Scoobs i think Western developers are much too afraid of the feminist movement, plus virginity has a much higher value in the east, while it probably has non in the west,



Videokameras said:
Scoobs i think Western developers are much too afraid of the feminist movement, plus virginity has a much higher value in the east, while it probably has non in the west,


That is more story related than gameplay related.





       

But story belongs to gameplay, especially when talking about an rpg, what else motivates you to play on?



Videokameras said:
But story belongs to gameplay, especially when talking about an rpg, what else motivates you to play on?


Uhm the gameplay?  Why do you think people invest so much time in multiplayer for example?  Or why do you think people play mario?  To see the story of peach getting rescued for the millionth time?

Are you saying other genres cant talk about virginity?  Or are you saying that virginity is exclusive to JRPG games? 

Story and gameplay are completely seperate things.




       

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Videokameras said:
Scoobs i think Western developers are much too afraid of the feminist movement, plus virginity has a much higher value in the east, while it probably has non in the west,

It depends on the game setting. A fantasy environment is a perfect setting for something like that and as I said before, it would be perfectly normal to see it happen in God of War or Witcher. It's really not something specific to Japanese style and definitely not helpful in determining a genre.



i see a great future for you as politician or lawyer. Japanese games are just different, it was just a random pick.

yes you have a point with multiplayer. but i still like to sort by origin.

To be fair you might have a point i never played gears of war, but i still like to know the origin.

 



There are so many things that JRPGs do differently than WRPG that it is difficult to lump them together as RPGs.

Epic Stories that are actually taken seriously (while games like Oblivion only put in a main quest so that there is one...)
Characters with their own personalities, motivations, beliefs... The characters in JRPGs often act as a way to let the player see the conflicts of the game through different points of view.
JRPGs often offer an epic classical soundtrack.
JRPGs put more effort/variation in the architecture, music, historical background of the cities
JRPGs focus on emotions of the characters/ WRPGs often focus on violence and brutality.
JRPGs often have complex stories that you can't fully understand the first time you see it... WRPGs hand you hundreds of sidequests instead.

I grew up with JRPGs/Action JRPGs like Terranigma, Final Fantasy, Suikoden, Breath of Fire, Kingdom Hearts. I have always seen them as the special genre, where playing the games and thinking about the stories have left me a little bit wiser and with a deeper understanding on life (FFX - consequences of blind faith, etc...).

Most WRPGs/Action WRPGs that I have played simply gave me an environment where I can max out my character or do hundreds of sidequests without deeper meaning. WPRGs also feel like most assets are reused over and over again. There is no story that makes each game special... I can't substitute FF7 with FF9, but I can totally substitute games like Borderlands1/Borderlands2.



No... All we need are SRPGs. The Shining Forces, the Fire Emblems, Spectral Forces. Everything else can die.







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Demon's souls for me is a wrpg made in Japan in a way that it is a western centric western inspired (in terms of both setting and gameplay elements) title. Jrpg on the other hand are games that have elements of anime/manga/ over the top characters and are just bright colourful with little tribute to realism (as in being believable).

So for me (and I'm assuming the vast majority of rpg fans) the prefixes describe more of the composition of a game rather than where it is made.

I love souls series but I can't stand modern jrpgs. Obnoxious voice acting, childish sometimes very generic and cliche dialogues, plots and characters that makes power rangers oscar worthy in comparison.

I know some western blockbusters like call of duties etc have very cliche, repetitive and sometimes predictable plots etc but you can't dispute the fact that western devs put a lot of effort into writing and narratives to their games.



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