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Do BF4 and AC4 even look that much better on next gen? I dont think so. I saw a video of AC4 PS3 vs PS4, and other than being a little sharper there was almost no difference. Your mom sure as hell wouldn't be able to tell. (here is that AC4 video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIHH_PNwcVE

 

I havent checked it out yet but I fear the same for BF4.

Then we have BF4 at 720P on X1...uggh. Same resolution as last gen.

 

Yes I am aware of all the usual caveats, that next gen will improve over time etc. It's still sort of surprising to me, personally.

 

It seems the"knee of the curve" as they say, on graphical diminishing returns, may have been the PS360 gen, in retrospect. I think every prior gen clearly showed huge increases (think about it) but PS360 to PS4/X1 is showing a lot of dimishing returns so far...

 



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Cross gen titles are a bad point of comparison

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It's always been like this. There were Xbox games that looked slightly better then 360 games. same for a ps2 to ps3.
ninja gaiden on Xbox. god of war 2 for ps2 and there are a few more. It always starts slow. only usually a few standouts at launch. been this way forever.

I kind of agree but mostly don't. I mean basically games that were the best of their kind last gen are now able to be made with the most minimal of efforts as launch titles this gen and even still there is big improvement.

I think the true 'knee' if you will. Will occur at 1080p / 60 FPS type stuff. It's where the atmospheric effects and the amount of things that can pull you out of a game are removed. I believe in year 4-5 of this generation. We will potentially have hit a point where the PS5, etc will need to be quite different in their approach due to diminishing returns.   Even still,  look at things like the original 'Deep Down' gameplay trailer.   Those 'in-engine' aspects that look fantastic.  That's how I envision future games to look like.

However, there is always room for improvements. This gen, we'll get texture improvements and larger scale things. In future generations, AI / Interaction with environment / Human design / etc will all take bigger roles.



I'd say the next gen looks quite distinguishing.



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Well I agree that were getting to a point where huge leaps in graphics wont be as noticeable but u have to remember developers have had 7-8 years to get familiar with PS360 and are able to push them to there limits while PS4/One are new consoles. A better comparison would be using launch PS360 games.

Call of Duty 3 vs Ghosts
Resistance vs Killzone ShadowFall
Project Gotham Racing 3 vs Forza 5/DriveClub
Kameo vs Knack


When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

They say this every gen. Seriously I'll look through this site and find an example for you.

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CGI-Quality said:

I'd say the next gen looks quite distinguishing.

If that top pic is the best looking game the ps3 had  then yes, next gen is quite distinguishing. But...we know thats not the best the ps3 had to offer. Don't we?



cmay227 said:
CGI-Quality said:

I'd say the next gen looks quite distinguishing.

If that top pic is the best looking game the ps3 had  then yes, next gen is quite distinguishing. But...we know thats not the best the ps3 had to offer. Don't we?

He was comparing launch titles. -.- 



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cmay227 said:
CGI-Quality said:

-Resistance

-Killzone

I'd say the next gen looks quite distinguishing.

If that top pic is the best looking game the ps3 had  then yes, next gen is quite distinguishing. But...we know thats not the best the ps3 had to offer. Don't we?

We also know that bottom pic won't be the best looking game the PS4's gonna get, don't we? 



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