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HikenNoAce on 26 October 2013

Dunno about the X1 but the Day 1 update on the PS4 adds a lot of stuff. And I'm sure it won't take, what was it, 1 hour to do the update on the WiiU?



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TM25 on 26 October 2013
Somini said:
kowenicki said:
Somini said:
kowenicki said:
Somini said:

You might want to take a look at this if you're wondering;

Gameranx: "Sony's President of Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida confirmed on Twitter that you can play your PlayStaion 4 without ever connecting to the internet. Thus, the Day One update is not required for the console to function."

https://twitter.com/yosp/statuses/393802492229611520


lol... oh come on.

Come on what?


Look.  This day one download thing isnt an issue, it really isnt. 

But to say that a consumer would be happy with a PS4 that didnt get the day one update is just not honest of you.  Its gimped... unbelievably gimped without the update.  Without the update you have no blu ray play back, no online play, etc etc?  Hell, some of the already featured stuff wont be there even AFTER the update.

The update is required.

I haven't said anything about being happy with your PS4 without the update. It's a simple fact that the console will function without the update and thus the WiiU situation can not be compared to this one at all.

Even if having the update was mandatory, this is Sony and Microsoft we're talking about here and they are nothing like Nintendo where people were downloading for hours and hours.

The Wiiu could play WiiU games without the update so it is comparable.  

What's not comparable is that Sony are supposed to be better at this than Nintendo yet are making the same mistake Nintendo did.  (Using Day 1 adopters as online infrastructure Beta testers)

Also there is a thread around here where someone took over a day to download The Last of Us.  The two hour update for the WiiU seems paltry in comparison.



Max King of the Wild on 26 October 2013

So OP makes a false statement and immediatly gets called out on the false statement... how much do you wanna bet somewhere down the line the OP will make a very similar statement



Max King of the Wild on 26 October 2013
TM25 said:

The Wiiu could play WiiU games without the update so it is comparable.  

What's not comparable is that Sony are supposed to be better at this than Nintendo yet are making the same mistake Nintendo did.  (Using Day 1 adopters as online infrastructure Beta testers)

Also there is a thread around here where someone took over a day to download The Last of Us.  The two hour update for the WiiU seems paltry in comparison.

What the fuck? Why compare a 26gb file size to a much smaller one with variables such as internet speed not being factored in. My head hurt from this post



Somini on 26 October 2013
TM25 said:
Somini said:
kowenicki said:
Somini said:
kowenicki said:
Somini said:

You might want to take a look at this if you're wondering;

Gameranx: "Sony's President of Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida confirmed on Twitter that you can play your PlayStaion 4 without ever connecting to the internet. Thus, the Day One update is not required for the console to function."

https://twitter.com/yosp/statuses/393802492229611520


lol... oh come on.

Come on what?


Look.  This day one download thing isnt an issue, it really isnt. 

But to say that a consumer would be happy with a PS4 that didnt get the day one update is just not honest of you.  Its gimped... unbelievably gimped without the update.  Without the update you have no blu ray play back, no online play, etc etc?  Hell, some of the already featured stuff wont be there even AFTER the update.

The update is required.

I haven't said anything about being happy with your PS4 without the update. It's a simple fact that the console will function without the update and thus the WiiU situation can not be compared to this one at all.

Even if having the update was mandatory, this is Sony and Microsoft we're talking about here and they are nothing like Nintendo where people were downloading for hours and hours.

The Wiiu could play WiiU games without the update so it is comparable.  

What's not comparable is that Sony are supposed to be better at this than Nintendo yet are making the same mistake Nintendo did.  (Using Day 1 adopters as online infrastructure Beta testers)

Also there is a thread around here where someone took over a day to download The Last of Us.  The two hour update for the WiiU seems paltry in comparison.

The Last could be purchased via retail and thus people had a choice. Furthermore keep your comments relevant to the topic.

2 hours huh? Have you missed out on Iwata's apology because the update was taking so long for most people. Read here if you've forgotten;

http://www.lazygamer.net/general-news/that-day-1-wii-u-update-nintendos-really-sorry/



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TM25 on 26 October 2013
Somini said:
TM25 said:
Somini said:
kowenicki said:
Somini said:
kowenicki said:
Somini said:

You might want to take a look at this if you're wondering;

Gameranx: "Sony's President of Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida confirmed on Twitter that you can play your PlayStaion 4 without ever connecting to the internet. Thus, the Day One update is not required for the console to function."

https://twitter.com/yosp/statuses/393802492229611520


lol... oh come on.

 

The Wiiu could play WiiU games without the update so it is comparable.  

What's not comparable is that Sony are supposed to be better at this than Nintendo yet are making the same mistake Nintendo did.  (Using Day 1 adopters as online infrastructure Beta testers)

Also there is a thread around here where someone took over a day to download The Last of Us.  The two hour update for the WiiU seems paltry in comparison.

The Last could be purchased via retail and thus people had a choice. Furthermore keep your comments relevant to the topic.

2 hours huh? Have you missed out on Iwata's apology because the update was taking so long for most people. Read here if you've forgotten;

http://www.lazygamer.net/general-news/that-day-1-wii-u-update-nintendos-really-sorry/

I can say the same to you, so there is no need to go there.  I am merely pointing out your double standards and correcting your spread of misinformation.

My install went smoothly I don't deny that, nobody would have had a problem if it had beeen in the console to begin with though surely even you can agree to that.  All three updates should be in the console, none of them should be taking the loyalty of day 1 adopters for granted.  Even the best infrastructure can heamorage.  Why take the risk?



dharh on 26 October 2013

Wait until actual launch day. Wii U had an atrocious launch day. If the PS4/XONE end up having troubles with their day one patches and no one complains then you might be on to something



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chapset on 26 October 2013

Well we have one here, so no they didn't get a free pass



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Turkish on 26 October 2013
Cobretti2 said:

Where are all the negative threads about the DAY ONE updates for the PS4 and XBOX ONE?

Remember when Wii U had one it was deemed to be unacceptable practice by Nintendo by a lot of users on these forums.

Just saying..


PS4 has a 300MB firmware update, how many GBs was the wiiu update?



TM25 on 26 October 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
TM25 said:

The Wiiu could play WiiU games without the update so it is comparable.  

What's not comparable is that Sony are supposed to be better at this than Nintendo yet are making the same mistake Nintendo did.  (Using Day 1 adopters as online infrastructure Beta testers)

Also there is a thread around here where someone took over a day to download The Last of Us.  The two hour update for the WiiU seems paltry in comparison.

What the fuck? Why compare a 26gb file size to a much smaller one with variables such as internet speed not being factored in. My head hurt from this post

Sigh.  You recognize the idea of variables affecting Sony but not Nintendo.  Evidence that the op was on to something.

My head hurts from blatant hypocrisy.