HikenNoAce said: the_dengle said: HikenNoAce said: Einsam_Delphin said: Oh good, you're still on this site. Thought you might have ran off after seeing X/Y's day one sales. :L   The sames sales that are way down from B&W? Those are the ones. So how long do you think it'll take for them to surpass B/W from aligned launch? Because X/Y have already surpassed every other generation of Pokemon. It'll never surpass B/W. As for every other generation of Pokemon, do you really think it'll get to 30M?

he never said that, he said its ahead of every gen launches aligned besides B/W. And what makes u so sure it wont outsell B/W?

Oh ya!!!!!! its cuz all the casuals left, how could i forget

S.T.A.G.E. said: Mensrea said: Pikmin 3, W101, ZombiU, Nintendoland, Sonic Lost world, Super Mario 3D World, Rayman Legends, Batman Arkham Origins, NSMBU+NSLU, Assassins Creed 4 Really, the Wii U will blow away the competition this holiday. ......? Are you kidding me? You're actually listing those games as a reason why Nintendo will dominate?

I misworded, I know that PS4 and Xbox one will outsell it easily. I meant in terms of library. Wii U is going to have a much stronger set of games this holiday than either console.

zorg1000 said: he never said that, he said its ahead of every gen launches aligned besides B/W. And what makes u so sure it wont outsell B/W? Oh ya!!!!!! its cuz all the casuals left, how could i forget

Doesn't matter how it aligns compared to other Pokemon games if it's not outselling them.

As for Pokemon, it's not because of the casuals, it's because it's on the decline among kids.

The Wii U is actually doing quite nicely in the software department. The Vita that has a larger install base and just sold 90,000 has it's software being outsold by the Wii U's.

HikenNoAce said: zorg1000 said: he never said that, he said its ahead of every gen launches aligned besides B/W. And what makes u so sure it wont outsell B/W? Oh ya!!!!!! its cuz all the casuals left, how could i forget Doesn't matter how it aligns compared to other Pokemon games if it's not outselling them. As for Pokemon, it's not because of the casuals, it's because it's on the decline among kids.

u have absolutely nothing to back up ur claims

3 months ago, I had NO interest in the WiiU. Now, I am thinking about getting one for my kids. I am still waiting for a holiday deal.

Sensei said: No global account system; No trophies; No 250GB+ HDD SKU; No gamepad-less bundle (I want a pro controller only FFS I'm a pro, not a casual and I don't want that toy looking tablet). So it's not stealing my xmas yet. Fix that shit up Nintendo, last home console of yours I owned was the Super NES.

They *can't* have a large HDD built in. The console's form factor is not designed for it.

Miiverse allows you to post any achievement your little heart desires, meanwhile.

Sensei said: No global account system; No trophies; No 250GB+ HDD SKU; No gamepad-less bundle (I want a pro controller only FFS I'm a pro, not a casual and I don't want that toy looking tablet). So it's not stealing my xmas yet. Fix that shit up Nintendo, last home console of yours I owned was the Super NES.

Agreed on the global account system and trophies/achievements, however I dont understand the rational behind the gamepad-less bundle. The gamepad is a pro controller just with a screen on it, it does the exact same thing as it and more.

HikenNoAce said: zorg1000 said: he never said that, he said its ahead of every gen launches aligned besides B/W. And what makes u so sure it wont outsell B/W? Oh ya!!!!!! its cuz all the casuals left, how could i forget Doesn't matter how it aligns compared to other Pokemon games if it's not outselling them. As for Pokemon, it's not because of the casuals, it's because it's on the decline among kids.

Where is this decline you keep preaching about? 4 million day 1 on an install base of 34 million not counting digital is better than any other Pokemon launch iirc. B/W launched on a 100+ million install base that already saw a mainline Pokemon game meaning the fanbase was already there, yet it didn't do so much better than X/Y as you'd think when considering the install base difference. Also it's unreasonable and unfair to expect the game to outsell it's predecessors in one day. It needs time for that, as the previous installments certainly did not get their total sales in one day.

zorg1000 said: HikenNoAce said: zorg1000 said: he never said that, he said its ahead of every gen launches aligned besides B/W. And what makes u so sure it wont outsell B/W? Oh ya!!!!!! its cuz all the casuals left, how could i forget Doesn't matter how it aligns compared to other Pokemon games if it's not outselling them. As for Pokemon, it's not because of the casuals, it's because it's on the decline among kids. u have absolutely nothing to back up ur claims

You're right. The only thing that we have are Pokemon numbers.