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PlayMatt on 22 October 2013
tbone51 said:
PlayMatt said:
And b!tch please? When is 300k First Week a flop? The new Zelda game took 3 weeks to reach 300k


Ok no offense but you really show your biased against nintendo. 3 weeks for 300k? Really? It took 1 week, the game released only in japan than everywhere else two weeks later. And on top of that its a remake that sold pretty well on a low install base. If LoZ WW HD is a flop then wat do you call W101? Wat do you call Killzone On Vita or Puppeteer on PS3?

Seriously i only ssid this cuz i notice you try  to jump on nintendo multiple times for the dumbest things. Just Really? 

OT: Brain Age on 3DS= Biggest Flop of the year imo. Also puppeteer


I wasn't saying it sold bad darling... I've just said it sold as good as a praised franchise...



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m0ney on 22 October 2013
PlayMatt said:
I agree, comparing a brand new IP nobody has ever heard of, to one of the oldest and most acclaimed IPs in the videogame world is foolish...


I am willing to bet that even your mom heard of Beyond. And as beatles1082 is saying old and acclaimed IP can't sell much on a console that few people own.



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PlayMatt on 22 October 2013
m0ney said:
PlayMatt said:
I agree, comparing a brand new IP nobody has ever heard of, to one of the oldest and most acclaimed IPs in the videogame world is foolish...


I am willing to bet that even your mom heard of Beyond. And as beatles1082 is saying old and acclaimed IP can't sell much on a console that few people own.


Well speaking for myself... I've never seen any Beyond 2 Souls advertisement until now! Only seen the premier thing* on the movie theater and the trailers at the expos (which mostly only hardcore gamers watch)... And a lot of ads for Wonderful 101, IGN was full of it! Every video was sponsored by Wonderful 101 and look at it's sales... Also Zelda Wind Waker HD had a lot of ads even VGChartz became dominated by it for some days!



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Mr Khan on 22 October 2013
PlayMatt said:
m0ney said:
PlayMatt said:
I agree, comparing a brand new IP nobody has ever heard of, to one of the oldest and most acclaimed IPs in the videogame world is foolish...


I am willing to bet that even your mom heard of Beyond. And as beatles1082 is saying old and acclaimed IP can't sell much on a console that few people own.


Well speaking for myself... I've never seen any Beyond 2 Souls advertisement until now! Only seen the premier thing* on the movie theater and the trailers at the expos (which mostly only hardcore gamers watch)... And a lot of ads for Wonderful 101, IGN was full of it! Every video was sponsored by Wonderful 101 and look at it's sales... Also Zelda Wind Waker HD had a lot of ads even VGChartz became dominated by it for some days!

Advertising evidence is always anecdotal based on where you live and what media you consume. I've seen a few TV ads for Beyond, on Comedy Central, i think.



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tbone51 on 22 October 2013
PlayMatt said:
tbone51 said:
PlayMatt said:
And b!tch please? When is 300k First Week a flop? The new Zelda game took 3 weeks to reach 300k


Ok no offense but you really show your biased against nintendo. 3 weeks for 300k? Really? It took 1 week, the game released only in japan than everywhere else two weeks later. And on top of that its a remake that sold pretty well on a low install base. If LoZ WW HD is a flop then wat do you call W101? Wat do you call Killzone On Vita or Puppeteer on PS3?

Seriously i only ssid this cuz i notice you try  to jump on nintendo multiple times for the dumbest things. Just Really? 

OT: Brain Age on 3DS= Biggest Flop of the year imo. Also puppeteer


I wasn't saying it sold bad darling... I've just said it sold as good as a praised franchise...


It sold over 100k+ in US when digital sales aren't accounted for on a 1.5mil user base. That is great, same if a vita game in US sold that much on its small userbase.



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beatles1082 on 22 October 2013

I generally don't watch TV I just know that I've been hearing about Beyond for what seems like at least 2 years.



dirtylemons on 22 October 2013

I think it's safe to say that 'Beyond: Two Souls' had an underwhelming first week, but it's WAY too soon to be calling it any kind of flop.



regin2005 on 22 October 2013

Wow, 300k for a game that isn't really considered the norm for most people is should NOT be considered a flop. When all is done, I can definitely see this title reaching 1.5LTD WW for this title which to me isn't too bad.

The are way more profile games that released this year that did WAY worse.



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attaboy on 22 October 2013
tiffac said:
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Reviews suggest that, despite the big stars, it's not a AAA game.  Also, as a generation draws to a close, there are TONS of other options for the gaming dollar. Many of us predicted that the game would do sub-Heavy Rain numbers ages ago.  Games like this don't have million sale first weeks.  I think it will top out at 1.5 million which is respectable.  Of course, while a million is the benchmark we've set for ourselves on this site as "success", we've also seen games that sell several million be labeled as failures (ie: Tomb Raider and Hitman: Absolution).  It would help me if you could tell me the budget of the game.


I believe the reported budget of B2S is around $27 Million.

Not bad, then.  If it can sell a million at full retail price, hopefully the revenue will be bigger than the marketing and development.  I think it will be okay.



Veknoid_Outcast on 22 October 2013
daredevil.shark said:
Games like puppeteer, okami, vanquish or beyond two souls sells like crap. And on the other hand games like COD or BF sells a ton. This is gaming industry.

Unfortunately that's every industry.