I remember all the "50mil max" predictions with ps3 having less than that in 2007/2008. on there defense this has been a nontypical gen. Congrats to MS for the 360 sales. Im impressed they were able to captivate that many people coming off the first console and RRoD in the first few years

Congratulations on missing out the part of my post where i explain why you're wrong. The tracking month of September in npd doesn't end exactly on the last day of the month. September is a 5 week tracking month and the tracking ended on the 5th of October, so when MS announced 80m shipped 'this month' you're either missing the first 2 days worth of data from the week of the 29th September till the 5th of October or you're missing the entire 7 days worth depending on how MS have decided to frame the data. Either way it's not 1.55m on shelves. But hey here's a fun fact, at this time of year with Black Friday sales about to hit even if 1.55 million consoles were on shelves then that supply would only last for 8 weeks. The 360 is undertracked by a couple of hundred thousand at most.

Grate news. On to 90m this time next Yr.?

No, by the end of 2014 and no sooner. Perhaps 92m though if it holds up.

Facepalm. You're wrong and reaching yet again. I'm going to have to baby step and spell this out for you again i see.

There are 2 options: either MS are saying they've shipped 80 million as of the end of September or they're saying they shipped 80 million as of the date of their press release which was the middle of October.

The Vgchartz numbers you keep quoting aren't for either of those dates, you keep giving the numbers as of the 28th of September. So you're either missing 2 days worth of data till the 30th of September or several weeks worth of data till the middle of October.

Yet again you gloss over the fact that i've said the 360 is probably undertracked by a couple of hundred thousand but if Vgchartz numbers are correct then that's 8 weeks worth of supply during the busiest quarter of the year.

Where is the Sony statement about them shipping 80mil? I know they are crappy at announcing sales, but 80mil would be such a milestone and strengthen the PS brand.

We assume the 80 million number is shipped. VGChartz numbers are ccurate and can not be disputed unless there is real evidence/proof provided to the admins of the site to update sales figures. The 80 million shipped figure is at 30th of September 13', the halfway point of the Fiscal year April 1 to March 31 13/14. 1.2 million systems on shelves, in transit or sitting in warehouse and in lead up to end of year sales and in line with big end of year launch titles is reasonable.

Uh well lookie at that i was right again :)

The 80 million wasn't for the end of September it was for the middle of October. 79.40m is till the end of the month, take Vgchartz number as of the 28th of September and then add on 2 days worth of sales to bring it to the end of September and that gives 78.7m sold. That leaves 700,000 in the retail chain, does that sound about right to you? :)

If they had 79.4 at the end of september i doubt MS shipped another 600k in less than 3 weeks. Their announcement was probably premature as well

That's what Microsoft have said themselves, 79.4m shipped as of the 30th September and 80 million shipped was announced on the 17th of October. For this time of year large numbers for shipments are perfectly normal, in fact only shipping an extra 600,000 is quite low for this time of year.