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what game would do better on the 3DS

Persona 4 106 57.30%
 
Dragon's Crown 20 10.81%
 
Little King Story 25 13.51%
 
Muramasa: Rebirth 7 3.78%
 
Machinarium 1 0.54%
 
Knytt 2 1.08%
 
even...Sly Cooper 22 11.89%
 
Total:183
Scisca said:
I don't think any of these games would sell better on 3DS. It's not exactly a console that sells 3rd party games and especially multiplats. It's enough to look at Rayman Origins, it sold so well it didn't even get a sequel... And we're talking about one of the best platformers in the recent years!

Did you try Rayman Origins on 3DS? I thought stereoscopic parralax scrolling would make the 3DS version look sexy. But damn, so much detail was lost on the visuals, the frame rate was halved and the end product was just an absolute mess. You put the 3DS and Vita versions side by side, and it's clear why the Vita version sold so much better.



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outlawauron said:
oni-link said:
outlawauron said:
oni-link said:
kupomogli said:
So you're posting a picture of the graphics and saying that's the reason it would sell on the 3DS?  Yeah, maybe.  Except the game wouldn't have those kind of graphics on the 3DS.  Go watch a Rayman Origins 3DS/Vita comparison and you'll see a noticeable difference in quality.  As many effects, scrolling backgrounds, enemies, and characters onscreen at one time, the 3DS version would have to be scaled down far more than what you see on Rayman Origins. 

One of the reasons why Code of Princess actually got so many poor reviews is because the game lagged when there were a lot of enemies on screen.  That's looking as bad as it does.

Hey genius...I never said the graphics would be the reason why it would sell on the 3DS don't put words in my mouth.  DC was hyped over the gaming media as well as showing a higher production value compared to CoP.  By all accounts it SHOULD and DID sell better than CoP. Visually the 3DS should be able to handle at least to the level of Muramasa seeing that it's between Wii and the original Xbox in terms of power with more modern shaders!!!

Which games are showcasing this? I've always thought Revelations was the best looking, but I may have missed something else.

For CoP/DC, they're both super niche, and I'm surprised that either sold as well as they did.

Besides being already known through out the internet that 3DS has better shaders and effect capabilities than all the 6th-gen console systems.  It's been widely argued that it's capabilities fall between that of the original Xbox and Wii!!!

http://3dsforums.com/nintendo-3ds-3/nintendo-3ds-graphics-shaders-7957/

http://www.news10.net/news/article/84015/241/Nintendos-3DS-uses-DMPs-PICA200-OpenGL-GPU

http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Hardware

plus if you own a 3DS and played games it's top tier games (I don't need to specify which ones) you would already know the system is at least equivalent if not above anything 6th gen was able to do!!! albiet on a much smaller screen!!!

Yeah, my 3DS collection isn't that great. Which is why I asked. Especially because the PS2 ports are all worse than the PS2 versions.

And if you notice, I asked which games show off that hardware?


Well one can always bitch and claim that those games are not up to par visually to 6th or 6.5 gen systems when actually they are and it would be pointless to argue otherwise.  Regarding the PS2 ports which means nothing as those games like ToA were meant to be played on a screen bigger than 3".  I personally think that DOA, KH:3D, Luigi'sMansion: DarkMoon, KidIcarus, and LoZ:OoT look amazing for the 3DS and already shows capablities above what I use to have on GCN and PS2...especially PS2.  I also tried MGS for the 3DS and it looked sharper to me with better colors than I last remembered...but again one can always "claim that they are not up to par" when the technology simply and actually looking at games say another story!!! Also screenshots never do justice to 3DS games for some reason; I'm not expert but they just look hella of a lot more prettier in person!!!



MikeRox said:
Scisca said:
I don't think any of these games would sell better on 3DS. It's not exactly a console that sells 3rd party games and especially multiplats. It's enough to look at Rayman Origins, it sold so well it didn't even get a sequel... And we're talking about one of the best platformers in the recent years!

Did you try Rayman Origins on 3DS? I thought stereoscopic parralax scrolling would make the 3DS version look sexy. But damn, so much detail was lost on the visuals, the frame rate was halved and the end product was just an absolute mess. You put the 3DS and Vita versions side by side, and it's clear why the Vita version sold so much better.


Rayman Origins is a game that suffered b/c of a shoddy port and design conflict with the system.  DKCR on 3DS look wayyyyyy better than Origins and shows what a good side scroller platform the handheld is capable of doesn't it?



DKCR isn't a sprite based game though. 3D capabilities and 2D capabilities are separate things. Why would the 3DS get an inferior port when the Vita got a much better port? The 3DS port even had to be delayed to improve it (pushing up the dev costs). That suggests that they really struggled to convert the game onto the 3DS as the hardware wasn't as suitable, so when it then came out and sold far worse, that to me explains why Rayman Legends didn't see a 3DS release.



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MikeRox said:
Scisca said:
I don't think any of these games would sell better on 3DS. It's not exactly a console that sells 3rd party games and especially multiplats. It's enough to look at Rayman Origins, it sold so well it didn't even get a sequel... And we're talking about one of the best platformers in the recent years!

Did you try Rayman Origins on 3DS? I thought stereoscopic parralax scrolling would make the 3DS version look sexy. But damn, so much detail was lost on the visuals, the frame rate was halved and the end product was just an absolute mess. You put the 3DS and Vita versions side by side, and it's clear why the Vita version sold so much better.


I know it's worse, but then again - every single Vita game would be worse on 3DS, cause the console is inferior. There is no way around it. Vita is often able to keep up with PS360 (not all the time obviously), but a 3DS version would always be far inferior and the sales just don't justify putting much more effort and money into 3DS games. It's 1st party that sales, both on 3DS and Wii U. In fact I'm sure had RE:R release on Vita the same day it released on 3DS, it would sell better there.



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Scisca said:
MikeRox said:
Scisca said:
I don't think any of these games would sell better on 3DS. It's not exactly a console that sells 3rd party games and especially multiplats. It's enough to look at Rayman Origins, it sold so well it didn't even get a sequel... And we're talking about one of the best platformers in the recent years!

Did you try Rayman Origins on 3DS? I thought stereoscopic parralax scrolling would make the 3DS version look sexy. But damn, so much detail was lost on the visuals, the frame rate was halved and the end product was just an absolute mess. You put the 3DS and Vita versions side by side, and it's clear why the Vita version sold so much better.


I know it's worse, but then again - every single Vita game would be worse on 3DS, cause the console is inferior. There is no way around it. Vita is often able to keep up with PS360 (not all the time obviously), but a 3DS version would always be far inferior and the sales just don't justify putting much more effort and money into 3DS games. It's 1st party that sales, both on 3DS and Wii U. In fact I'm sure had RE:R release on Vita the same day it released on 3DS, it would sell better there.


LOL...that's funny because the best selling game on the Vita so far is Uncharted: GA and it barely managed to scrape 1 mil in sales!!! Uncharted scraping for less than 1mil in sales despite price-cuts and being one of the best known Sony franchise ON THE VITA A SONY SYSTEM THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE MUCH MORE SUPERIOR TO IT"S COMPETITOR!!!  While RE:R  a third party title (non-Sony title) sold 750K units on the 3DS and Capcom still bitched about it(true story)!!! IF it was released on the Vita then I'd hate to see the whinning Capcom would have done with those possible sales.  AC:III Liberation barely sold the same amount of units despite a massive marketing campaign and being bundled with the Vita's for it's second Christmas holiday!!!



By the way the 3DS has 16 third party titles that have sold 500K or more while the Vita manage to sell a pathetic 2 third party title over 500K units; AC:III being one of them!!! I guess the myth that 3rd party title sell better on the Vita is all there is to it...A BIG MYTH!!! 



Scisca said:
How can anyone prefer to play Vita games on 3DS!? It's such an inferior device. The screen, controls, graphics - they would make all these games look so much worse. And Gravity Rush on 3DS would look sexy? You must be kidding me! A fully 3D open world game would look just awful on 3DS, it just isn't powerful enough to run it.

there are fully 3D open world games on the original DS.



oni-link said:
Scisca said:
I know it's worse, but then again - every single Vita game would be worse on 3DS, cause the console is inferior. There is no way around it. Vita is often able to keep up with PS360 (not all the time obviously), but a 3DS version would always be far inferior and the sales just don't justify putting much more effort and money into 3DS games. It's 1st party that sales, both on 3DS and Wii U. In fact I'm sure had RE:R release on Vita the same day it released on 3DS, it would sell better there.

LOL...that's funny because the best selling game on the Vita so far is Uncharted: GA and it barely managed to scrape 1 mil in sales!!! Uncharted scraping for less than 1mil in sales despite price-cuts and being one of the best known Sony franchise ON THE VITA A SONY SYSTEM THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE MUCH MORE SUPERIOR TO IT"S COMPETITOR!!!  While RE:R  a third party title (non-Sony title) sold 750K units on the 3DS and Capcom still bitched about it(true story)!!! IF it was released on the Vita then I'd hate to see the whinning Capcom would have done with those possible sales.  AC:III Liberation barely sold the same amount of units despite a massive marketing campaign and being bundled with the Vita's for it's second Christmas holiday!!!


I see nothing funny with what I've said. I guess you should read it again carefully, cause you probably didn't get what I've written. I'm not saying it would sell more than 750k on Vita. I'm saying RE:R being a multiplat would sell better on Vita than on 3DS. The Vita sales would obviously eat into the 3DS sales, so they wouldn't come close to 750k, thus would be possible to beat on Vita.

Also there are 3 3rd party games that sold 500k+ on Vita, as you can easily put Persona 4G there, since it's just a few retail copies below, but easily made the jump thanks to digital sales. And there are only 13 3rd party games on 3DS (where did you get 16 from!?) And it's a fact that 3rd parties don't sell on 3DS. First of all - compare the hardware base and suddenly that 13 doesn't look that awesome and remember that one of those games is MH, which is strong enough that it manages to sell despite being on a Nintendo console. Also the other games are some of the biggest franchises in history, like Dragon Quest (2 games), Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil or Cooking Mamma ;) Other 3rd parties that aren't huge franchises and managed to make it past the 500k level just barely managed to make it so yeah, it's not that rosey.

3DS is ahead in this department not because it's so good, but because Vita is so bad and Sony is, hopefully, yet to do something about it.

 

@MohammadBadir - cool. Now compare them to GR.



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My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Vita sales are massively undertracked as we know that there are an awful lot more digital sales on the system than you normally get on a console. Wasn't there something from Sony that said as much as 50% of software sales on Vita are digital?

I wonder how many sales Gravity Rush and Uncharted haven't registered due to them being claimed via PS+.

Also 3DS might have 16 500k sellers, are any of them also on Vita? It's generally a common consensus that while the Vita has great games, it doesn't have enough "big" exclusives. It would be interesting to see accurate sales for the multi format 3DS/Vita releases.

There are quite a few Vita titles have sold better than their 3DS counterparts despite the much smaller userbase. Surely at 40m to 6m using extrapolation a 3DS game selling 500k is the equivalent of a Vita game selling 75k on a sales to users ratio.



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