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what game would do better on the 3DS

Persona 4 106 57.30%
 
Dragon's Crown 20 10.81%
 
Little King Story 25 13.51%
 
Muramasa: Rebirth 7 3.78%
 
Machinarium 1 0.54%
 
Knytt 2 1.08%
 
even...Sly Cooper 22 11.89%
 
Total:183
oni-link said:
kupomogli said:
So you're posting a picture of the graphics and saying that's the reason it would sell on the 3DS?  Yeah, maybe.  Except the game wouldn't have those kind of graphics on the 3DS.  Go watch a Rayman Origins 3DS/Vita comparison and you'll see a noticeable difference in quality.  As many effects, scrolling backgrounds, enemies, and characters onscreen at one time, the 3DS version would have to be scaled down far more than what you see on Rayman Origins. 

One of the reasons why Code of Princess actually got so many poor reviews is because the game lagged when there were a lot of enemies on screen.  That's looking as bad as it does.

Hey genius...I never said the graphics would be the reason why it would sell on the 3DS don't put words in my mouth.  DC was hyped over the gaming media as well as showing a higher production value compared to CoP.  By all accounts it SHOULD and DID sell better than CoP. Visually the 3DS should be able to handle at least to the level of Muramasa seeing that it's between Wii and the original Xbox in terms of power with more modern shaders!!!

Which games are showcasing this? I've always thought Revelations was the best looking, but I may have missed something else.

For CoP/DC, they're both super niche, and I'm surprised that either sold as well as they did.



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MikeRox said:
oni-link said:

you obviously never had the Wii...if you did you would notice the gianormous pile of crap/shovelware that 3rd party had put on the system!!!  Even Nintendo was guilty with adding shovelware to the system in the form of Wii Music!!!*shudders*

There was also a lot of awesome software which couldn't even crack 100k.

It devestated me, I still think Wii controls have a hell of a lot of potential. Dead Space Extraction was great, sold pants. Silent Hill: Shattered Memories was possibly the best Silent Hill game there has been. You can say the same about a lot of other Wii games. Wasn't all Wii owners faults though. Developers wrote the Wii off, got caught off guard with how successful it was and had only committed the shovelware you refer to for the console.

By the time they realised it was a viable format, they needed time to make decent games for it (2+ years) leading to a massive drought. By the time the quality 3rd party releases finally hit the console, the userbase was already bitter/cynical over the shovelware.

Chaulk me up as one of them!!! Third parties have alway treated Nintendo and their fans as second class citizens, and then wonder why no one buys their shit!!!  I actually picked up the X360s when it came out just for multi-plats and continued with the Wii for it's exclusives because of that!!!  Dead Space extraction was a joke in a way that it was so low in production value it was given away for free!!!  The Wii despite giving good sales for it's RE rails games never got a proper game in the series or even a spin-off.  Madworld, NoMoreHeroes, etc sold wayyyyy less compared to their HD counterparts despite it's updated visuals, bonuses and lower intial price tag.  Going back on the Vita...some of those games will never recover their initial investment unless ported to other systems like 3DS, Wii U, or PS360!!! Which they should!!!



oni-link said:


you obviously never had the Wii...if you did you would notice the gianormous pile of crap/shovelware that 3rd party had put on the system!!!  Even Nintendo was guilty with adding shovelware to the system in the form of Wii Music!!!*shudders*

regarding the Vita...between my LG Nexus 4...Samsung Galaxy Tab...and my 3DS, I don't think I have room for the Vita in my life actually!!! My sister-in law (who works for Nvidia...I live in BayArea) just had me try the N-Shield for a few months and unfortunately don't have time and space for.  Obviously, the people have chosen their handheld of choice to go along with their smart devices.  I hope companies see that (even Sony admits it) Vita's future is bleak and should begin downporting these games to the 3DS or smart devices!!!

@ Bolded: you kinda proved my point...many devs try to through games at the wii hoping for some quick cash that when they tries to make something of value it was just ignored(and I do own a Wii by the way)

shame that you don't have time for a Vita because it is a incredible device...many of the games listed by you and other user were detailed for the vita,  it's not like the devs we unaware for the vita's slacking sales, and they continued with their work; some even got Collector's Editions...and they have no proof that their game would've sold just as much if not better on the 3DS than their Vita counter-part just because of a larger install base

if we can look at the DS as welll had some fantastic games(Suikoden/Radiant Historia/Valkyrie Profile/Stange Journey) and yet the really didn't set the world on fire for the DS either, one could say it's a gamble to put their game on any platform and that the greatest install base doesn't equal success



They were definitely wise to put SMTIV on 3DS, Nintendo funded the distribution and publishing for them so it was a no brainer.



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oni-link said:

Going back on the Vita...some of those games will never recover their initial investment unless ported to other systems like 3DS, Wii U, or PS360!!! Which they should!!!


Muramasa sold more on Vita in it's opening Japanese debut than global lifetime sales on Wii.

Oddworld: Strangers Wrath Vita sales outsold PS3 version.

Retro City Rampage generated most revenue on the Vita (it sold more on Steam due to the giveaway sales)

Vita software actually punches well above it's weight. Falcom's latest release has sold better in the first 2 weeks on Vita than it has on PS3.

It might only have 6m userbase, but we're a very dedicated 6m ;) I have more Vita games than I do 3DS. It will be interesting to see how Batman performs next week. Is there a chance the Vita version could outsell the 3DS one? Or will the 3DS ver with the much larger userbase crush it?

My personal opinion is that sales for it are going to be far closer than most people would expect.



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outlawauron said:
oni-link said:
kupomogli said:
So you're posting a picture of the graphics and saying that's the reason it would sell on the 3DS?  Yeah, maybe.  Except the game wouldn't have those kind of graphics on the 3DS.  Go watch a Rayman Origins 3DS/Vita comparison and you'll see a noticeable difference in quality.  As many effects, scrolling backgrounds, enemies, and characters onscreen at one time, the 3DS version would have to be scaled down far more than what you see on Rayman Origins. 

One of the reasons why Code of Princess actually got so many poor reviews is because the game lagged when there were a lot of enemies on screen.  That's looking as bad as it does.

Hey genius...I never said the graphics would be the reason why it would sell on the 3DS don't put words in my mouth.  DC was hyped over the gaming media as well as showing a higher production value compared to CoP.  By all accounts it SHOULD and DID sell better than CoP. Visually the 3DS should be able to handle at least to the level of Muramasa seeing that it's between Wii and the original Xbox in terms of power with more modern shaders!!!

Which games are showcasing this? I've always thought Revelations was the best looking, but I may have missed something else.

For CoP/DC, they're both super niche, and I'm surprised that either sold as well as they did.

Besides being already known through out the internet that 3DS has better shaders and effect capabilities than all the 6th-gen console systems.  It's been widely argued that it's capabilities fall between that of the original Xbox and Wii!!!

http://3dsforums.com/nintendo-3ds-3/nintendo-3ds-graphics-shaders-7957/

http://www.news10.net/news/article/84015/241/Nintendos-3DS-uses-DMPs-PICA200-OpenGL-GPU

http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Hardware

plus if you own a 3DS and played games it's top tier games (I don't need to specify which ones) you would already know the system is at least equivalent if not above anything 6th gen was able to do!!! albiet on a much smaller screen!!!



oni-link said:

Not really begging for ports but there is a possiblity that since the Vita is still struggling for it's life; despite many great games that game out for the system.  The 3DS/smart devices might be a good place for these games to expand to a new audience.  I love some of the games on the Vita...but I just don't want to play them on the Vita!!!


The problem with a lot of your logic seems to be that you think some of these Vita games are able to reach a large audience.

The strongest support for Vita, especially in Japan, has been Otaku developers.  The kind who target a specific audience; have low sales targets and make a game full of fanservice.  Nippon Ichi; Nihon Falcom; Compile Heart; even Marvelous AQL & Spike Chunsoft to an extent.  So as such, I don't think any of their games would do better on 3DS despite the massively increased install-base (i.e. no Disgaea; Ys; Neptunia; Valhalla Knights etc.)  It's why games like Conception sell better on Vita.

Even some of the bigger Japanese games, like Miku or Toukiden, I don't think would do any better on 3DS, because again they target a more-than-niche-but-less-than-mainstream audience.  Persona is debateable; but I don't think Dragon's Crown or Muramasa would've done better.

So, what would sell better on 3DS?  Well, stuff that already does, like LEGO, obviously.  But other than that, not much I can think of from Vita's library.

Little Battlers eXperience W would probably do better on 3DS, being child-friendly.  Possible the two Tales of ports as well, although the fact they already exist on DS probably would've meant that the games wouldn't exist if they didn't come to Vita (i.e. Vita was the attempt at expanding their audience).

I think possibly One Piece might've done better on 3DS too.  Not really sure on that one.  I think it performed really well on Vita for a ported sequel to a PS3-only game, but I do suspect the 3DS' userbase might've helped out with that one.  Then again, I'd say Vita is a more anime/manga-centric console, so who knows.



I don't think any of these games would sell better on 3DS. It's not exactly a console that sells 3rd party games and especially multiplats. It's enough to look at Rayman Origins, it sold so well it didn't even get a sequel... And we're talking about one of the best platformers in the recent years!

In fact in just 7 days Batman Origins: BlackGate is released on both consoles, we'll be able to see which platform fares better. I kinda feel that Vita is going to move more games.


How can anyone prefer to play Vita games on 3DS!? It's such an inferior device. The screen, controls, graphics - they would make all these games look so much worse. And Gravity Rush on 3DS would look sexy? You must be kidding me! A fully 3D open world game would look just awful on 3DS, it just isn't powerful enough to run it. RE looks ok only because you keep walking in tight corridors, the console would never manage a huge open world with a big city and huge building like you have in GR.

BTW. I believe this is the first time someone admits Vita has awesome games! I'm shocked! Last time I heard it still had "no gaemz". What a change! People, buy Vita, it haz gaemz nou!



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My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

I think the resolution is the biggest sticking point for that.

Muramasa was 640x480 on Wii, higher resolution on Vita.
Dragons Crown is a HD title on PS3 downscaled for Vita.

3DS resolution would lose a lot of detail on the sprites. Rayman Origins was awful on 3DS compared with any other format. Also shaders and effects don't really come into it on sprite based games.



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oni-link said:
outlawauron said:
oni-link said:
kupomogli said:
So you're posting a picture of the graphics and saying that's the reason it would sell on the 3DS?  Yeah, maybe.  Except the game wouldn't have those kind of graphics on the 3DS.  Go watch a Rayman Origins 3DS/Vita comparison and you'll see a noticeable difference in quality.  As many effects, scrolling backgrounds, enemies, and characters onscreen at one time, the 3DS version would have to be scaled down far more than what you see on Rayman Origins. 

One of the reasons why Code of Princess actually got so many poor reviews is because the game lagged when there were a lot of enemies on screen.  That's looking as bad as it does.

Hey genius...I never said the graphics would be the reason why it would sell on the 3DS don't put words in my mouth.  DC was hyped over the gaming media as well as showing a higher production value compared to CoP.  By all accounts it SHOULD and DID sell better than CoP. Visually the 3DS should be able to handle at least to the level of Muramasa seeing that it's between Wii and the original Xbox in terms of power with more modern shaders!!!

Which games are showcasing this? I've always thought Revelations was the best looking, but I may have missed something else.

For CoP/DC, they're both super niche, and I'm surprised that either sold as well as they did.

Besides being already known through out the internet that 3DS has better shaders and effect capabilities than all the 6th-gen console systems.  It's been widely argued that it's capabilities fall between that of the original Xbox and Wii!!!

http://3dsforums.com/nintendo-3ds-3/nintendo-3ds-graphics-shaders-7957/

http://www.news10.net/news/article/84015/241/Nintendos-3DS-uses-DMPs-PICA200-OpenGL-GPU

http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Hardware

plus if you own a 3DS and played games it's top tier games (I don't need to specify which ones) you would already know the system is at least equivalent if not above anything 6th gen was able to do!!! albiet on a much smaller screen!!!

Yeah, my 3DS collection isn't that great. Which is why I asked. Especially because the PS2 ports are all worse than the PS2 versions.

And if you notice, I asked which games show off that hardware?



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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