Slightly? No.

Why are you people even discussing the WiiU? Y'all really dont know much about it. Including the thread msker.

we know enough about it  considering  the conclusion of the gpu thread at neogaf that its a 160 sp gpu and then you have an actual third party developer that porting a game to wiiu, that goes into to detail about the wiiu hardware being only slighty more powerful, and this guy basically confirms that its a 160 sp gpu., the writing is all on the wall.

Moderated,

(for his contribution in the thread as a whole, not for this anchor-post)

-Mr Khan

Right.

Since when has it ever been that simple? How long you been at this eh?

this doesnt make any sense.

You could tear down a gamecube and make sense of it yourself.

Lay off it. He's gone, but i haven't really been a fan of your contributions to this thread. Even if i do share your views on the self-destructive myopia of third parties, the blame for that lies at the hands of people with titles like Producer and the suits at the publishers, not folks doing the day-to-day like the OP, who is more in the execution stage rather than the part that worries about bothering to put their money where their mouth is regarding Nintendo platforms. Let's keep this a good, neutral, informative thread that it has been.

They're apart of a unit man. You take the unit as a whole. I dont like his attitude so I said something about it.

They're really not, especially the guys that are more on the programming side of things. While they could push back against the people with creative control about whether they want to work on a certain platform, it's the creative control guys (Directors and Producers at the studio) who have more pull, or if it's a project being overseen by a major publisher (a franchise game like Lords of Shadow) as opposed to a studio IP being third-party published (The Witcher: Wild Hunt), then the publisher has all the say-so in the matter.

Third party intransigience regarding Nintendo platforms rests in the hands of the OP's bosses, and while he could lodge protests regarding the failings of any one platform and how it might impact his ability to deliver a product, that is the long and short of it, and protests won't go very far unless he's got an in with management of some sort.

So i said, drop it. I generally agree with your viewpoint, but this is not the thread for that.

Its mindset man. You start with what you can do. I hate apathy. Some things were said here, that I thought needed to be addressed. So I said something.

This guy is acting as a mediator, which is something he really shouldnt be doing anyway.  He should talk about programming. thats his forte. He is just a "programmer" after all. Its like asking HexaDrive what's going to happen.

I dont quite know why you're talking about third party relations with Nintendo right now though. That's not the topic here. We're talking about the industry and its mismanagement

I've said my peace. The people shall take what they will from it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUpmTFjs_M8

Another question for the devs: Do you guys and girls agree with Guerrilla Games on this?

"It's also a lot more demanding, because the production effort needed just to make a next-gen title now is not doubled; It's quadrupled."

I know "effort" doesn't necessarily scale linearly with "cost", but have you noticed significant expansion within your development teams? Or is it just that a similar number of people have to work a lot harder in next gen development?