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Chevinator123 said:
random question, but does anyone know what the song is during the slow dance scene during jodies teen years??

If anyone was curious too, i did find it after i made a thread on a different site. (you vgcharterz are useless!!)

"End of the line" by Gareth Johnson.

End of the Line - Track Detail - Audio Network - Listen, buy and download today

its a very indie song, its not on itunes or even youtube only can be found from link above



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I'm looking forward to seeing how its interactive narrative compares with other games in the modern adventure genre. Especially The Wolf Among Us.



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I thought it was awesome, I hope Cage continues to be able to do this. People overrate their interactivity sometimes I think. You essentially play the same game many, many times in your life. I'm happy I get new things once every so often.  I felt like I was there with Jodie, it was more emotional than most games I've played.  But I can change the way her life happens, better than a movie.



adriane23 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

This video ignores how limited your options are, it requires no skill to play, and I was disspointed about how little my actions affect the story. That's what makes it more movie than game.

Its a unique game and I appreciate it for that. But as whole, it was a boring experience.


That's 99% of games. The only games I can think of that comes close to offering outcomes based on the things you do is Star Ocean: The Second Story, and Shadow of Destiny. Other games that say your choices make a difference are pretty shallow when you get right down to what actually happens in the game.

No, don't just pick and choose my words to make an argument. You ignored my comment about how Beyond requires no skill to play and you have little control of the story. Therefore it barely feels like a game, it might as well have been a television series.

For example, I was disappointed how little my choices mattered in Mass Effect, but atleast it had enjoyable gameplay. I can't say that about Beyond.



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adriane23 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

This video ignores how limited your options are, it requires no skill to play, and I was disspointed about how little my actions affect the story. That's what makes it more movie than game.

Its a unique game and I appreciate it for that. But as whole, it was a boring experience.


That's 99% of games. The only games I can think of that comes close to offering outcomes based on the things you do is Star Ocean: The Second Story, and Shadow of Destiny. Other games that say your choices make a difference are pretty shallow when you get right down to what actually happens in the game.

No, don't just pick and choose my words to make an argument. You ignored my comment about how Beyond requires no skill to play and you have little control of the story. Therefore it barely feels like a game, it might as well have been a television series.

For example, I was disappointed how little my choices mattered in Mass Effect, but atleast it had enjoyable gameplay. I can't say that about Beyond.

Options and gameplay are too different things. I chose your argument about the options in the game and how they affect the story because I disagree with them. I agree with your argument about the game requiring no skill to play, so there was no point in bringing it up. As a matter of fact, the whole point of this type of game is that it doesn't require skill to play, much like point-and-click adventure games.

What I don't care for in this game and the options it presents to you is that they're mostly no-brainers. There was never really a moment in the game where I had to sit and think about my options, because I was sure my choice was the correct one regardless of the ramifications, unlike Heavy Rain.



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pezus said:
kowenicki said:

Which movie is it better than?

it says better than a movie? I'm sure it is better than many movies. 

I don't understand?

i'll watch the link and maybe it will be more clear. 

Why didn't you just watch before commenting...?

The premise is that it's a better experience than movies because you are in control. It is you who pushes the buttons. That naturally makes you feel more involved.

Agreed, its more immersive because you have some control. But you don't have much control on the story and gameplay based on QTEs with no or little consequence is boring.

Some parts of the story were just bad and made no sense. Aiden's powers are inconsistent which hurts the experience. Even as an interactive story, it was kind of a mess.



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adriane23 said:

Options and gameplay are too different things. I chose your argument about the options in the game and how they affect the story because I disagree with them. I agree with your argument about the game requiring no skill to play, so there was no point in bringing it up. As a matter of fact, the whole point of this type of game is that it doesn't require skill to play, much like point-and-click adventure games.

What I don't care for in this game and the options it presents to you is that they're mostly no-brainers. There was never really a moment in the game where I had to sit and think about my options, because I was sure my choice was the correct one regardless of the ramifications, unlike Heavy Rain.

Well even point and click adventure games require some puzzle soliving skills.

They present Beyond as if your decisions really mold story, but they really don't. The most control you feel you have is when you build an ending at the end.

Ultimately, I like the idea of this type of game. But they need to give you more control of story. Especially if the gameplay is limited to QTEs.



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Mr Puggsly said:

They present Beyond as if your decisions really mold story, but they really don't. The most control you feel you have is when you build an ending at the end.

That's simply not true. The final sequence may be the only period in the game where the player is presented with entirely different scenes based on their choice, but each sequence before that plays out in varying manners. So to say that your decisions don't really mold the story is definitely inaccurate.



Mr Puggsly said:
Wright said:

People who hate 3EYOND because they think it is a movie and haven't even played it are morons.

 

3EYOND hype!!!!!!11!1!!!111!11

What about the people that hate it because its barely a game?

I just completed it... as a game it was pretty awful.


Shhhh, if you make too much sense they'll start to get mad.



dirtylemons said:
Mr Puggsly said:

They present Beyond as if your decisions really mold story, but they really don't. The most control you feel you have is when you build an ending at the end.

That's simply not true. The final sequence may be the only period in the game where the player is presented with entirely different scenes based on their choice, but each sequence before that plays out in varying manners. So to say that your decisions don't really mold the story is definitely inaccurate.

You basically just decide how the character will spend her life. The most significant part of the ending is the same for all playthroughs.

Also, I found it odd I can choose to have an ending with someone I never developed a connection with in my playthrough.

Lastly, I'm disappointed that trailers used a scene from the epilogue where she's looking over the city in ruins. It was misleading about what occurs in the game.



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