It's not a diss. As i said, i have no reason to diss it. For me personally typing X1 is less convenient, as i have to use the num pad for most numbers right now (keyboard needs replacing. Can't find any that look as comfy though ¬_¬).

Anyone who perceives Xbone or any similar play on words as a diss is being silly. It's like those people who find $ony or M$ as being somehow offensive. People are far to defensive over their choice of corporation..

I'm using my phone and so I guess if I misinterpreted servers for services then that makes me drunk, perfect logic lol.

Well yeah, I too have Steam and it's nice. But you're the one who made a thread about Live vs. PS+. By your logic you could easily say that you are paying for Live to NOT get features that you get on other platforms.

But anyways, back on topic. The difference is that you get most of what Live offers for free (online, apps, internet) and then you get to decide if you want to spend the money on the extra features that PS+ give you. whereas if you have a 360 and don't have live there isn't a whole lot you can do with it.

How is it a diss when Microsoft themselves have embraced the name...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-09-12-microsoft-secures-xbone-com-domain

I guess by your logic Microsoft is dissing their own product.

people love to argue the , 'paywall for apps' thing. that's nonsense to me where the PS360 is concerned.

you buy a console to play games. not for the apps. you didn't buy your ps3 because it gave you free access to Netflix. I didn't buy my Xbox because to watch movies. We  bought our consoles to enjoy gaming. And for me particularly, online gaming. So that paywall you refer to really doesn't exist, except for those that want to turn it into a negative; into ammunition for their argument over one console or another.

I picked xbox and it's better online connections and communtiy features because I'm a gamer.. not saying you aren't... but onliine is what modern gaming is about, what it's always been about actually, friends. competition. Netflix, ESPN, Amazon, the internet... it's all ancillary, it's not what I have an xbox for, or why I pay for Live. That Microsoft decided to lock those features behind a membership means very little actually and amounts to a minuscle amount of revenue for their bottom line, if any at all. People pay for Live to game, that's it. The other sfuff is a bonus. 
And Live is better. That's like a given almost.

If you use the apps more than actually play games, than the PS3 is the better bargain, but if that'sthe case, gaming isn't your thing and you wouldn't be on this forum. 

think I caught ya'.

It's pointless to compare PS+ and Live on current gen. Better service = Live, better value = PS+. This is better suited for next gen.

securing the domain and 'embracing' the name or two totally different things. One's business, the other isn't going to happen, at least honestly.
and yeah... it was a diss. x1 is pretty easy to type.. I don't care what zek said is quicker on his keyboard.
don't blame him, it's a stupid name.

for next gen.. when the PS+ finally gives you access to cross game chat and Live has hundreds of thousands of dedicated servers.
good point.

Me personally, I don't care if my games won't run on dedicated servers . My online experience has ran fine without it, and will cotinue to in the future.

Yeaaa Miiverse for life!!!!