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ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:

Influential? In what way? Playstation 1 was influential, the iPod was influential. I don't think the playstation 4 is remotely influential.

beats by dre!?  Silly list.

Beats changed the headphone industry for ever... great choice.

http://business.time.com/2013/01/16/how-dr-dre-made-300-headphones-a-must-have-accessory/

And about PS4 it made MS change everything about Xbone (180)... how it can't be influential?


boom! yeah ps4 really influenced its biggest competitor...



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ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:

Influential? In what way? Playstation 1 was influential, the iPod was influential. I don't think the playstation 4 is remotely influential.

beats by dre!?  Silly list.

Beats changed the headphone industry for ever... great choice.

http://business.time.com/2013/01/16/how-dr-dre-made-300-headphones-a-must-have-accessory/

And about PS4 it made MS change everything about Xbone (180)... how it can't be influential?

No; just no. Beats are horrible. Try listening to some classical music or anything that isn't meant to be bass-first on them. They distort the sound and make it sound way different than intended. Plus, they're not even comfortable. You (ie everyone) are better off with a nice set of Sennheisers or the like.

As for PS4, it has the advantage of being revealed and released so late in the year. But to be fair, it didn't have much competition. X1 perhaps, but MS bombarded that with a mess up after a mess up. I'd say it deserves it.



           

ultima said:
ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:

Influential? In what way? Playstation 1 was influential, the iPod was influential. I don't think the playstation 4 is remotely influential.

beats by dre!?  Silly list.

Beats changed the headphone industry for ever... great choice.

http://business.time.com/2013/01/16/how-dr-dre-made-300-headphones-a-must-have-accessory/

And about PS4 it made MS change everything about Xbone (180)... how it can't be influential?

No; just no. Beats are horrible. Try listening to some classical music or anything that isn't meant to be bass-first on them. They distort the sound and make it sound way different than intended. Plus, they're not even comfortable. You (ie everyone) are better off with a nice set of Sennheisers or the like.

As for PS4, it has the advantage of being revealed and released so late in the year. But to be fair, it didn't have much competition. X1 perhaps, but MS bombarded that with a mess up after a mess up. I'd say it deserves it.


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The Fury said:

Exented article here (on the dirty website)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2449468/Sony-Walkman-zip-Past-centurys-100-inventions.html

It is a UK study, I think. The idea is that these items are one that have defined the year in terms of influence as gadgets. Only 1 per year. Look over the full list is about right I think. Take this year for example, I can't think of any gadget that has had as much influence just by news as the PS4 has had. It's weird for it to be on there mind you. But I can't think of any other devices from this year that have stood out.

Lets take it this way, Dr Dre Beats sound technology spurned a string of replicas and made big 'waves' in the business when they came out. For the PS4, it's simple approach has change the Xbox One, if that isn't influential...

My confusion is to why Wii isn't on the list for 2006 considering it's populatity.

well Xbox One has had a lot of news this year as well.  It's just been bad news lol




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ultima said:
ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:

Influential? In what way? Playstation 1 was influential, the iPod was influential. I don't think the playstation 4 is remotely influential.

beats by dre!?  Silly list.

Beats changed the headphone industry for ever... great choice.

http://business.time.com/2013/01/16/how-dr-dre-made-300-headphones-a-must-have-accessory/

And about PS4 it made MS change everything about Xbone (180)... how it can't be influential?

No; just no. Beats are horrible. Try listening to some classical music or anything that isn't meant to be bass-first on them. They distort the sound and make it sound way different than intended. Plus, they're not even comfortable. You (ie everyone) are better off with a nice set of Sennheisers or the like.

As for PS4, it has the advantage of being revealed and released so late in the year. But to be fair, it didn't have much competition. X1 perhaps, but MS bombarded that with a mess up after a mess up. I'd say it deserves it.

We're talking about how influential the product is, not how well it reproduces audio. (Unfortunately, these two things don't have much of a correlation when it comes to Beats). 



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ultima said:

No; just no. Beats are horrible. Try listening to some classical music or anything that isn't meant to be bass-first on them. They distort the sound and make it sound way different than intended. Plus, they're not even comfortable. You (ie everyone) are better off with a nice set of Sennheisers or the like.

As for PS4, it has the advantage of being revealed and released so late in the year. But to be fair, it didn't have much competition. X1 perhaps, but MS bombarded that with a mess up after a mess up. I'd say it deserves it.

A bad product? Maybe I didn't tried myself.

But it changed the headphone industry... before it headphones was never a consumer buy... this gadget changed that "making headphones as much fashion accessories as they are listening devices".

It have 64% of the market.

And you can disagree but most reviews I read praises it audio quality and design.

Casual consumers only buy headphones today because this little one



ethomaz said:

ultima said:

No; just no. Beats are horrible. Try listening to some classical music or anything that isn't meant to be bass-first on them. They distort the sound and make it sound way different than intended. Plus, they're not even comfortable. You (ie everyone) are better off with a nice set of Sennheisers or the like.

As for PS4, it has the advantage of being revealed and released so late in the year. But to be fair, it didn't have much competition. X1 perhaps, but MS bombarded that with a mess up after a mess up. I'd say it deserves it.

A bad product? Maybe I didn't tried myself.

But it changed the headphone industry... before it headphones was never a consumer buy... this gadget changed that "making headphones as much fashion accessories as they are listening devices".

It have 64% of the market.

And you can disagree but most reviews I read praises it audio quality and design.

Casual consumers only buy headphones today because this little one

I guess I misunderstood you. You said they were a great choice. I assumed you meant that they were a great set of headphones, rather than a great choice for the list.

I don't even know if that's the case. I, and many people I know, had a decent set of headphones before beats. Also, majority of people still use earbuds in public places.

What did the reviews praise? I can't see it being praised for anything besides playing hip-hop and stuff like that; it isn't great for rock, classical, jazz, etc. Design is okay, nothing that stands out. But they really aren't comfortable. They weigh down on the top of the head just as much as other headphones I've tried after you use them for a while. The pads are also too small.

I guess what I'm trying to do is dissuade people from getting these. Because for the same price you can get products that are of much higher quality.



           

ultima said:
ethomaz said:

ultima said:

No; just no. Beats are horrible. Try listening to some classical music or anything that isn't meant to be bass-first on them. They distort the sound and make it sound way different than intended. Plus, they're not even comfortable. You (ie everyone) are better off with a nice set of Sennheisers or the like.

As for PS4, it has the advantage of being revealed and released so late in the year. But to be fair, it didn't have much competition. X1 perhaps, but MS bombarded that with a mess up after a mess up. I'd say it deserves it.

A bad product? Maybe I didn't tried myself.

But it changed the headphone industry... before it headphones was never a consumer buy... this gadget changed that "making headphones as much fashion accessories as they are listening devices".

It have 64% of the market.

And you can disagree but most reviews I read praises it audio quality and design.

Casual consumers only buy headphones today because this little one

I guess I misunderstood you. You said they were a great choice. I assumed you meant that they were a great set of headphones, rather than a great choice for the list.

I don't even know if that's the case. I, and many people I know, had a decent set of headphones before beats. Also, majority of people still use earbuds in public places.

What did the reviews praise? I can't see it being praised for anything besides playing hip-hop and stuff like that; it isn't great for rock, classical, jazz, etc. Design is okay, nothing that stands out. But they really aren't comfortable. They weigh down on the top of the head just as much as other headphones I've tried after you use them for a while. The pads are also too small.

I guess what I'm trying to do is dissuade people from getting these. Because for the same price you can get products that are of much higher quality.

I own a a pair of beats over ear and had a pair in ear. Though not the studio's, but the smaller pair. The overhead ones are good for stuff with heavy bass/hip hop, but like you said for other genres they are only decent. Design, I gotta disagree wih you. It's my opinion though, but design wise they look really nice even when you just wrap them around your neck when not using them. They have a really nice design, but isn't too gaudy looking. Well the smaller version I own anyways lol. The studios/bigger variation(the one you see the most) has alot better sound compared, but since I only used it briefly, not sure. The in ear ones were really nice overall though. I will agree with you on the last part though. You can get better headphones then the beats for the same price. I guess for beats, it's mainly the branding/design with a decent to good sound that rocketed it into popularity. It's in alot of muisc vidoes and suff too like boom boom pow from the black eyed peas that featured them awhile back. There are better headphones that you can buy then them.



kowenicki said:

Influential? In what way? Playstation 1 was influential, the iPod was influential. I don't think the playstation 4 is remotely influential.

beats by dre!?  Silly list. 


did you read the list?  it's broken out by years.  ps1 won 1995.  ps2 won 2002.  xbox 360 won 2005.  ps4 wins 2013.



kowenicki said:
kitler53 said:
kowenicki said:

Influential? In what way? Playstation 1 was influential, the iPod was influential. I don't think the playstation 4 is remotely influential.

beats by dre!?  Silly list. 


did you read the list?  it's broken out by years.  ps1 won 1995.  ps2 won 2002.  xbox 360 won 2005.  ps4 wins 2013.

Yes. I agree with ps1, ps2, 360. They brought something new. 

Ps4 does nothing new or groundbreaking IMO. 

What exactly did the ps2 do that was "new or groundbreaking"? All it did was dominate the market. Influential can mean many things.