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WiiU gamers should be happy they don't have to deal with the BS of DLC. A majority of it is content that should have been in the day 1 release but is held off for "season passes" or as pre-order/day one DLC to entice more full price sales.



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J_Allard said:
WiiU gamers should be happy they don't have to deal with the BS of DLC. A majority of it is content that should have been in the day 1 release but is held off for "season passes" or as pre-order/day one DLC to entice more full price sales.

But Wii U owners still have to deal with it. It's not as though the DLC is being included with the games -- whatever content is held back is still held back. The difference is that if you buy the Wii U version, you can't buy the additional content even if you want to.



Maybe they realise people won't pay for DLC on Wii U when it seems that Nintendo is intent on providing it for free.

I don't doubt that it will hurt sales to some extent, particularly for those people with multiple consoles who will do a tick-box comparison. In the end thought I don't think it should matter that much to too many people given the purchase rate for most DLC, but I can understand people not liking it in principle.



DLC doesn't matter to consumers.

I highly doubt there are many people that buy a game because of it having DLC.

Nearly all the consumers of a would have already boughten the game or will still buy the game regardless of if it has DLC or not.

Now DLC to business do matter. Pretty sure DLC is like the developers accessories. Just like consoles, phones, ect make a shit ton of money on their propeitary accessories that they mark up 900% so do the developers make a shit ton of money on DLC.

It's a cheap way for them to make quick and easy money.



Galaki said:

DLC are normally cheap add-ons. But people seem to think it's like building a brand new game just because it's on WiiU and therefore not worth the effort.

Or are they just secretly scared that WiiU will dominate if it's given equal footing in a fight?


It's because the wiiU uses inferior tech and doesnt have stroage space, which is essential to be able to add content.



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That's bullshit^



Mr Khan said:
DucksUnlimited said:
Mr Khan said:
DucksUnlimited said:
Galaki said:

DLC are normally cheap add-ons. But people seem to think it's like building a brand new game just because it's on WiiU and therefore not worth the effort.

Or are they just secretly scared that WiiU will dominate if it's given equal footing in a fight?

Yes, developers putting their games on the Wii U are secretly terrified that it might get a decent install base and make their games sell better. We all know how much the big publishers hate money!

 

Given their historical conduct on Nintendo home consoles, the idea of love for money overriding all other factors is, at best, questionable.

The idea that almost every third party publisher, and all of the people in high ranking positions in these companies, would rather lose out on potential money than support Nintendo because of some wide-spread secret vendetta across the entire videogame industry is, at best, some very poorly thought out nonsense.

It's either that, or they are morons across the board.

Pick whichever seems more likely, but no rationalization is otherwise possible.

Or they know that they likely won't get a justifiable ROI seeing as how these companies actually know what these games cost to port to the system and can estimate based on previous performance what revenue will look like. 

If you honestly think that is less likely than your conspiracy theory, I don't really know what to tell you. Do you think new employees at these companies are trained to hate Nintendo? Do employees have to demonstrate their hatred of Nintendo in order to get promoted? These companies span across the world in different countries with different leadership and business strategies. Some of them are relatively new, some have been around for decades. The idea of a global consensus among all new and old employees of every major publisher on the planet for several decades that damaging Nintendo is a higher priority for their company than making money is, well, ridiculous. Unless you have any sort of evidence for this being the reason for limited third party support, having this conversation with you is beyond pointless.

Surely one of these millions of employees/ex-employees must have leaked something over the past thirty years or so. That could be a good place to start.



DucksUnlimited said:
Mr Khan said:

It's either that, or they are morons across the board.

Pick whichever seems more likely, but no rationalization is otherwise possible.

Or they know that they likely won't get a justifiable ROI seeing as how these companies actually know what these games cost to port to the system and can estimate based on previous performance what revenue will look like. 

If you honestly think that is less likely than your conspiracy theory, I don't really know what to tell you. Do you think new employees at these companies are trained to hate Nintendo? Do employees have to demonstrate their hatred of Nintendo in order to get promoted? These companies span across the world in different countries with different leadership and business strategies. Some of them are relatively new, some have been around for decades. The idea of a global consensus among all new and old employees of every major publisher on the planet for several decades that damaging Nintendo is a higher priority for their company than making money is, well, ridiculous. Unless you have any sort of evidence for this being the reason for limited third party support, having this conversation with you is beyond pointless.

Surely one of these millions of employees/ex-employees must have leaked something over the past thirty years or so. That could be a good place to start.

You're engaging in reducto ad absurdum too. It does not need to be a conspiracy at all levels, just a few bruised egos, a few misunderstandings, at choice levels that lead to the bad decisions being made (along with the analysts constantly running interference to keep the investors from complaining).

There have been few proven instances where a company gave actual good support to Nintendo consoles and got burned for the effort. ROI is all well and good to speak of, but where's the backing?



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Galaki said:

Because WiiU gamers are too dumb to plug a USB drive in.

All of the casuals have gone away. We don't have to worry about having a dumb community anymore.

... Just a small one.



people have lesser money to spend and wiiu isn't exactly the hot product on the market