Viper1 said: Come on, Seece. Really? The system gets a damn nice week and all you can do is tear it down? |
This isn't a pity party, I'm being realistic.
Viper1 said: Come on, Seece. Really? The system gets a damn nice week and all you can do is tear it down? |
This isn't a pity party, I'm being realistic.
AndrewWK said: so they sold 685 Konsoles? not bad |
Give this man a Nobel Peace Prize!
Seece said:
Mario Kart 8 and Smash are this holiday? No, is Smash even soon, isn't that late 2014 at best? |
So much to adress here. First of all I said in the near future, I did not say this holiday. You realize that some Nintendo games sell very well even outside of the holiday season, NSMB DS was one example I know for certain.
MK8 I believe is coming out in April, that's soon. Smash should be sometime June next year, though I'm speculating. You must realize that Nintendo has accelerated its time from announcement to market since the cube days.
The reason the U failed according to you is lack of mass appeal in the hardware. Then in that case how do you explain the 3DS' floundering and then rise from ashes? No, it's not shortsighted, again it's based on patterns we've all been studying together. Nintendo's mass appeal comes from its pricepoint and its games, as well as new input controls (DS, Wii, WiiU), but that's secondary as the 3DS shows.
NSMB also did make the Wii soar, but it wasn't a launch title. Wii Sports certainly was, and that Wii series is in the same spirit as Wii Sports, so Wii Fit and Wii Party have similar sales potential at launch, NSMB was not only fatigued but doesn't appear to have that same selling power at launch.
Again, all based on patterns.
Seece said:
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I just wish people were also smart to say USA and US citizens. But no, it's america and americans.
Seece said:
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No, you're not trying to be realistic. You're intentionally finding a factoid to produce to eliminate the perceived success for the circumstances. And then you've followed it up with several posts that continually try to marginalize that success.
It's irrelevant that it's not selling as well as the Wii or even the PS3/X360. The point is that it received a massive increase in sales. And rather than acknowledge that accomplishment, you marginalize it under the guise of being realistic.
When Vita spikes soon, are you going to be 'realistic' about it? Or happily acknowledge the success?
The rEVOLution is not being televised
FrancisNobleman said:
I just wish people were also smart to say USA and US citizens. But no, it's america and americans. |
I've gone to college at Lindenwood University, Missouri for the past 4 years or so. I've met a LOT of international students there, and I mean alot! Most if not all of internationals here I've talked to, including Canadians and some South Americans (from various places) call those who live in the U.S. Americans. They don't call themselves Americans from my experience. They are Canadians, or Mexicans, or Brazlians, who live in North/South America.
Anfebious said:
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1. An increase was expected in the whole of Europe with the price drop and game.
2. Being in just UK is niether good nor bad.
3. It is however irrelevant considering its easy to get 685% increase with 1k sales compared to a 685% increase with 6k sales.
Viper1 said:
No, you're not trying to be realistic. You're intentionally finding a factoid to produce to eliminate the perceived success for the circumstances. And then you've followed it up with several posts that continually try to marginalize that success. It's irrelevant that it's not selling as well as the Wii or even the PS3/X360. The point is that it received a massive increase in sales. And rather than acknowledge that accomplishment, you marginalize it under the guise of being realistic. When Vita spikes soon, are you going to be 'realistic' about it? Or happily acknowledge the success? |
He's an xbox fan, bro. He will probably be realistic :)
Max King of the Wild said:
2. Being in just UK is niether good nor bad. 3. It is however irrelevant considering its easy to get 685% increase with 1k sales compared to a 685% increase with 6k sales. |
It's still an increase . Have faith in the Wii U! The Wii U is going to turn around! If the PS3 did, the Wii U can do it!
"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"
happydolphin said:
So much to adress here. First of all I said in the near future, I did not say this holiday. You realize that some Nintendo games sell very well even outside of the holiday season, NSMB DS was one example I know for certain. MK8 I believe is coming out in April, that's soon. Smash should be sometime June next year, though I'm speculating. You must realize that Nintendo has accelerated its time from announcement to market since the cube days. The reason the U failed according to you is lack of mass appeal in the hardware. Then in that case how do you explain the 3DS' floundering and then rise from ashes? No, it's not shortsighted, again it's based on patterns we've all been studying together. Nintendo's mass appeal comes from its pricepoint and its games, as well as new input controls (DS, Wii, WiiU), but that's secondary as the 3DS shows. NSMB also did make the Wii soar, but it wasn't a launch title. Wii Sports certainly was, and that Wii series is in the same spirit as Wii Sports, so Wii Fit and Wii Party have similar sales potential at launch, NSMB was not only fatigued but doesn't appear to have that same selling power. Again, all based on patterns. |
3Ds was never a broken concept (the 3D is a little weak but it was far more accepted than the Gamepad has/ever will be) it was considered far more overpriced than what WiiU is, and it was giving a significant price cut.
To top all of that off, it still isn't doing amazing numbers elsewhere in the world besides Japan. It was nearly dipping below 100k in the US earlier this year, at the same point in its life the DS was getting 700k a month or something ridiculous. Things will definitely pick up now with Pokemon, but that has been a franchise that has sold Nintendo handhelds since its inception. Nintendo home consoles don't have any such franchise, hence you get a 24 million selling gamecube and a drop in sales console over console continuiously (as they experienced) until the Wii.
Secondly, just like past Nintendo home consoles and handhelds. You can't base the home console sales on how well their handheld is doing. That's what history told you, not that all price cuts and games work to completely reinvigour a system.
Weak baseless excuses for why NSMB didn't sell. I would say today that franchise/game has more appeal than Wii Fit/Wii Party/ That audience has well and truly moved on. And they're certainly not picking it up for Super Mario 3D 0_o