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Max King of the Wild on 14 October 2013
archbrix said:
Max King of the Wild said:
archbrix said:

You sound quite defensive there...

Regarding your first paragraph, yes, it is possible.  The SNES had big games releasing in '94 (DKC, Super Metroid, Super Street Fighter 2) and '95 (DKC 2, Yoshi's Island).  As you can see from the chart, FY '93 and '94 were the biggest years for the SNES with over 11m each year.  So with price drops and even more games, 4.4m in FY '95 and 5.8m in '96 are certainly possible.

As for your second paragraph, I honestly can't remember what big games the PS1 had after MGS in '98 other than Final Fantasy 8 and 9, but what I do remember was that the PS1 was difficult to find in the St Louis area during the holiday of 2000 (whereas the N64 was everywhere), so it's not far fetched that the dirt cheap PS1 was, at the very least, not drastically outsold in FY '01 by the massively hyped PS2.  So my point still stands:  It's the exception, not the rule, that a brand new console can beat an established console at its cheapest price with an amassed library of games.

Now, the information on that chart could very well be inaccurate, but it's not a surprise that someone who thinks himself to be infallible would inherently dismiss anything that opposes his views - even in the face of logic.

5.8m is a far cry from 9.1m dont cha think? Ya know... the amount Sony Ps1 sold in '96... Ya know, the same time period the Wii U would be in right know... but hey... dont let that logic interfere with you

What on earth are you even talking about here?



You: 4.4m in FY '95 and 5.8m in '96 are certainly possible

Sony: 9.2m Ps1 in FY '96 with only half of the year worth of sales in the majority of the market..



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archbrix on 14 October 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
archbrix said:
Max King of the Wild said:

5.8m is a far cry from 9.1m dont cha think? Ya know... the amount Sony Ps1 sold in '96... Ya know, the same time period the Wii U would be in right know... but hey... dont let that logic interfere with you

What on earth are you even talking about here?



You: 4.4m in FY '95 and 5.8m in '96 are certainly possible

Sony: 9.2m Ps1 in FY '96 with only half of the year worth of sales in the majority of the market..

That's 9.2m PS1 in FY '97, not '96.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/3035/big-4-videogame-hw-amp-sw-shipments-from-1983-to-2009and-beyond/



Max King of the Wild on 14 October 2013
archbrix said:
Max King of the Wild said:
archbrix said:
Max King of the Wild said:

5.8m is a far cry from 9.1m dont cha think? Ya know... the amount Sony Ps1 sold in '96... Ya know, the same time period the Wii U would be in right know... but hey... dont let that logic interfere with you

What on earth are you even talking about here?



You: 4.4m in FY '95 and 5.8m in '96 are certainly possible

Sony: 9.2m Ps1 in FY '96 with only half of the year worth of sales in the majority of the market..

That's 9.2m PS1 in FY '97, not '96.

You would be right... if only Sony didn't change how they reported data. Fucking weird right? Fact remains, Ps1 outsold the SNES after launching world wide in '95. (I have no idea why you would report in march then may... then wait till November)

1996

March 31

2.50

1.00

0.80

4.30

May 15

2.70

1.30

1.00

5.00

November 30

4.20

3.45

2.35

10.00


hiimnew on 14 October 2013

Wasn't the vita at half the sales on 3ds at launch?

Yet the Vita now isn't near half the sales of 3ds at the same point in its life.



Viper1 on 21 October 2013

Just thought it was worth noting that the Vita saw a very nice increase in Japan thanks to the new model.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170341&page=4#2

After 4 pages of posts, very few people were downplaying the achievement.

For any of you that posted in that thread with encouragement and yet castigated the Wii U's achievement in this thread, shame on you. And vice versa.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

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MaskedBandit2 on 21 October 2013
Viper1 said:
Just thought it was worth noting that the Vita saw a very nice increase in Japan thanks to the new model.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170341&page=4#2

After 4 pages of posts, very few people were downplaying the achievement.

For any of you that posted in that thread with encouragement and yet castigated the Wii U's achievement in this thread, shame on you. And vice versa.

One gives actual figures so we can see that Vita actually did sell well and had a large boost while Wii U is given a mere percentage increase at a time when it was already selling horrendus, and thus, remains selling horribly.  They are not comparable in the slightest. 



Viper1 on 21 October 2013
MaskedBandit2 said:
Viper1 said:
Just thought it was worth noting that the Vita saw a very nice increase in Japan thanks to the new model.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170341&page=4#2

After 4 pages of posts, very few people were downplaying the achievement.

For any of you that posted in that thread with encouragement and yet castigated the Wii U's achievement in this thread, shame on you. And vice versa.

One gives actual figures so we can see that Vita actually did sell well and had a large boost while Wii U is given a mere percentage increase at a time when it was already selling horrendus, and thus, remains selling horribly.  They are not comparable in the slightest. 

They did indeed have something of comparability.  They both saw a very large increase over very low previous week sales.    The difference is in the volume beyond the compeition and the location (one nation is console heavy while the other is portable heavy).

However, it was in the way each console was acknowledged for their respective achievement that was truly different.   One was accepted for the solid sales increase despite still being greatly outsold by the compeition while the other was absolutely chastised anyway.  One was allowed to enjoy its success, the other was not.

And the mere fact you had to reply with the same case as others (your second post ont he site no less...not suspicious at all) tells me you simply can't acknowledge the achievement and leave it at that.  



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MaskedBandit2 on 21 October 2013
Viper1 said:
MaskedBandit2 said:
Viper1 said:
Just thought it was worth noting that the Vita saw a very nice increase in Japan thanks to the new model.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170341&page=4#2

After 4 pages of posts, very few people were downplaying the achievement.

For any of you that posted in that thread with encouragement and yet castigated the Wii U's achievement in this thread, shame on you. And vice versa.

One gives actual figures so we can see that Vita actually did sell well and had a large boost while Wii U is given a mere percentage increase at a time when it was already selling horrendus, and thus, remains selling horribly.  They are not comparable in the slightest. 

They did indeed have something of comparability.  They both saw a very large increase over very low previous week sales.    The difference is in the volume beyond the compeition and the location (one nation is console heavy while the other is portable heavy).

However, it was in the way each console was acknowledged for their respective achievement that was truly different.   One was accepted for the solid sales increase despite still being greatly outsold by the compeition while the other was absolutely chastised anyway.  One was allowed to enjoy its success, the other was not.

And the mere fact you had to reply with the same case as others (your second post ont he site no less...not suspicious at all) tells me you simply can't acknowledge the achievement and leave it at that.  

Suspicious?  Why are you even throwing post count in this and trying to assume ridiculousness?  What achievement is there?  Vita selling 60k from what it was doing previously in a market dominated by the 3DS is a remarkable achievment.  Wii U rising from selling nothing to still selling nothing isn't.  Yeah, it's nice that it rose, but percentages do not paint the whole picture. 

A few weeks ago, the 360 experienced a near 600% increase in Japan, yet was that applauded?  Of course not because it only sold ~100 units the week before and ~700 after.  That's not an achievement that should be taken the same way as Wii U's rise in the UK, just as Wii U to the Vita in Japan.  They are not comparable.  Context is needed in every case, and Wii U's rise just isn't impressive.