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Not bad! Could do better, but it's something!



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Seece said:

Mario Kart 8 and Smash are this holiday? No. Is Smash even soon, isn't that late 2014 at best?

The WII made the Wii soar, the concept.

That is not the reason the WiiU is failing, such shortsightness. The masses are not interested in Nintendos games without the console having mass appeal, hence why no other Nintendo system did nearly as well as Playstation or Wii. Why is that so hard to understand for some people.

It's hilarious you say Wii Fit and Wii Party U are games that made the Wii soar, er in that sense so did NSMB by your logic? It did 20m+ .... Yet it failed to do anything this time around.

nice "argument". nintendo systems will never do well without a huge hit because 10/15 year old consoles in different market contexts didn't.

nsmbU didn't do a thing? keep telling that to yourself.



Seece said:

A) I'm saying what helped shift the 3DS, doesn't mean it works for everything else. The gamecube was slashed to $99 in no time. Did nothing.

B) The Wii and MK were able to sell because of the huge Wii audience, just like dun dun duuuh NSMB!! I guarantee if that hadn't released yet you would be putting NSMB in that list thinking it has a new audience. In reality it's no different to MK or Wii series. Another franchise we actually have proof for, Just Dance. Huge on Wii. Big on WiiU? nope.

C) Not even going there, Nintendos history shows the opposite of what you're saying.

D) NSMB didn't sell WiiU's because the WiiU concept is not appealing to casuals or core gamers, that's why, and that's why it'll never take off. I can see it doing alright but it's never going to 'Win'

E) What audience is there for Super Mario 3D? The Nintendo core. That didn't help in past gens, so why is it suddenly a big factor now???

what concept? it's a videogame, people care about the games, period.

for a series that always sells more than 6M, it's certainly a factor. and the "nintendo core" is as big as ever.



Good stuff.



Carl2291 said:
Easy to make HD Update does more than Pikmin 3 and TW101 combined?

You could say that, but both Pikmin 3 and W101 add to a strong library that makes the Wind waker bundle look more appealing beyond the game itself.



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Zero999 said:
Seece said:

Mario Kart 8 and Smash are this holiday? No. Is Smash even soon, isn't that late 2014 at best?

The WII made the Wii soar, the concept.

That is not the reason the WiiU is failing, such shortsightness. The masses are not interested in Nintendos games without the console having mass appeal, hence why no other Nintendo system did nearly as well as Playstation or Wii. Why is that so hard to understand for some people.

It's hilarious you say Wii Fit and Wii Party U are games that made the Wii soar, er in that sense so did NSMB by your logic? It did 20m+ .... Yet it failed to do anything this time around.

nice "argument". nintendo systems will never do well without a huge hit because 10/15 year old consoles in different market contexts didn't.

nsmbU didn't do a thing? keep telling that to yourself.

So without it what would you expect WiiU sales to be? 2m??? That'd highlight even more how the concept of WiiU is it's biggest problem.



 

Seece said:
Zero999 said:

nice "argument". nintendo systems will never do well without a huge hit because 10/15 year old consoles in different market contexts didn't.

nsmbU didn't do a thing? keep telling that to yourself.

So without it what would you expect WiiU sales to be? 2m??? That'd highlight even more how the concept of WiiU is it's biggest problem.

Yeah, it would have done worse, you are right that NSMBU helped, but not in the scale Nintendo had expected. Also, it's true that NSMBU is still helping today, like zippy said, to create a diverse library. NSMBU at the end of the gen will be a sleeper hit it is undoubtable.



I think most agree the wii U sales are bad to date- We all agree they will get better starting now thru Spring 2014- Many of us think "better" will still be far below what is needed and def below the 9 million sales target Nintendo has for this fiscal year and some think they will hit the target- my question is, regardless of what one thinks the Wii U hardware sales will end up, how will the software sales do per Wii u sold?

So far it looks like the wii U is poised to have among the worst attach rates of any recent console and if you read about all the people that have or will be buying a Wii U for specific games like Smash Brothers and Mario Kart, it seems the Wii U is destined to be a "Nintendo 1st party exclusive" machine for many and a specific game(s) machine for a large % of buyers as well- I think the # of people who have a Wii U as an only console or Primary console AND buy lots of software for it are a very low % of current and future owners- so even though hardware sales will rise it seems like correlating software sales will be lower than average fro most consoles regardless of which Company- The low software sales to date and highly possible low software attach rate in the future could be a bigger dilemma for the wii u than anything else to date- It seems that 3rd party games alre likely to struggle even when/if Wii U hardware sales grow



forethought14 said:
Not bad! Could do better, but it's something!





Nintendo and PC gamer

It is still going to be under 100k units