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HP stated the obvious today, clearing the air a bit in the world of personal computing, not to mention other areas of the technology industry. Microsoft, it said, is now a competitor to its business. Of course, we knew this.

HP sells software, services, and devices. So does Microsoft. Here’s the key quote from HP CEO Meg Whitman: “Current [HP] partners like Intel and Microsoft are turning from partners to outright competitors.” Microsoft is no longer content or able to mint money by selling software to partners, corporate clients, and the public. As it moves into services and devices, companies that were partners will retain that status, but also garner a new classification: adversary.

As a company, Microsoft will speak to you in loud tones about how much it loves its OEM partners, such as HP. But its tone shifts when conversation turns to its Surface line of tablets, which, in its view, is top-notch. Hang out with Microsoft teams and you’ll see an encroaching level of Surface usage that will in short order overtake ThinkPad’s former preeminence among the company’s employees.

Microsoft has to bloviate and state that it remains committed to its partners — in part because it is, which is underscored by the simple reality that the company has no choice in the matter; Surface sales are hardly the entire PC market. But at the same time you can’t directly undermine your partners with billions of dollars in investments into your own competing products and not risk slight message incoherence.

So it’s the firm smile and filed statement from Microsoft in this case. HP must be more blunt. Its 330,000-strong workforce is in the process of a promised, multi-year transformation. It can’t afford anything but clarity to its investors who, by and large given its current market capitalization, remain skeptical.

Business Insider points out that HP now discusses a multi-OS strategy, when before it was gung-ho for Windows 8. Well, relationships change and markets shift. HP can’t live a 90s life in this decade, and neither can Microsoft. There is more than sunlight between the two.

 

http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/09/hp-admits-what-we-already-knew-microsoft-is-at-war-with-its-oem-partners/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)



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All this article is basically saying, is tha HP can't/won't have super-duper relations with MSFT any longer, as Windows is just another platform for them.

Comments?



Seriously I am worried about MS. Over the past few years I have seen more and more indications that Microsoft is a sinking ship with no vision. I like Windows 8 so I hope I am wrong, but they are one or two massive failures away from the "writing being on the wall." ....



Why even bother posting this other than for you to post negative MS news, It's going to be of no interest to anyone.



 

Captain_Tom said:
Seriously I am worried about MS. Over the past few years I have seen more and more indications that Microsoft is a sinking ship with no vision. I like Windows 8 so I hope I am wrong, but they are one or two massive failures away from the "writing being on the wall." ....



There's indicators both for and against that statement.

 

Bull indicators for MSFT-

-Balmer's replacement - If this guy can't boost stock price enough, then he has to go.  A replacement is the only course of action, and since that is happening, there should be some amount of stock appreciation

-MSFT's reorganization-  the reorganization should be able to unlock some value in the company. 

Bear indicators for MSFT-

-Windows decline - this is a big one.  Basicallly Windows and Office are MSFT's two biggest sources of revenue, when people migrate to android tablets or chromebooks, which is happening, then both Windows and Office sales will go down. 



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Seece said:

Why even bother posting this other than for you to post negative MS news, It's going to be of no interest to anyone.



Check out my other post, i'm both fair and balanced today.



dallas said:
Seece said:

Why even bother posting this other than for you to post negative MS news, It's going to be of no interest to anyone.



Check out my other post, i'm both fair and balanced today.


No you're alright I try and read as little from you as possible, Don't think you're kidding anyone here either.

Just why waste time out of your life to do this?? baffles me.



 

Seece said:
dallas said:

 



Check out my other post, i'm both fair and balanced today.


No you're alright I try and read as little from you as possible, Don't think you're kidding anyone here either.

Just why waste time out of your life to do this?? baffles me.


would you like to move away from this argument and discuss the article?



dallas said:
Captain_Tom said:
Seriously I am worried about MS. Over the past few years I have seen more and more indications that Microsoft is a sinking ship with no vision. I like Windows 8 so I hope I am wrong, but they are one or two massive failures away from the "writing being on the wall." ....



There's indicators both for and against that statement.

 

Bull indicators for MSFT-

-Balmer's replacement - If this guy can't boost stock price enough, then he has to go.  A replacement is the only course of action

-MSFT's reorganization-  the reorganization should be able to unlock some value in the company. 

Bear indicators for MSFT-

-Windows decline - this is a big one.  Basicallly Windows and Office are MSFT's two biggest sources of revenue, when people migrate to android tablets or chromebooks, which is happening, then both Windows and Office sales will go down. 


I base my worries on this:

 

-Many EX Microsoft Executives have stated that MS is a sinking ship, and that they are spending way too much money on Xbox.  

-OEM's like HP are looking into replacing Windows in their cheaper lines (Which is usually where MS dominates)

-MS continues to make baffling decions like Xbox One, Bing, and Windows RT.  Focus on what you are good at and stop jumping on bandwagons.

-MS is in danger of losing its gaming market to SteamOS.

I just see to many indications that they are gonna ruin themselves within 10 years unless things change quickly...



I read that the problem started with surface tablet. Semiaccurate.com had a huge article about it. HP and microsoft are really having trouble to maintain their relationship. It seems they were "accurate" this time. lol.