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Xenostar on 09 October 2013
selnor1983 said:

WTF?

PS3 launched in Plymouth UK for 500GBP. Xbox 360 was 400 GBP.

Xbox One is nearly 100 quid cheaper than PS3 launched for.

No your wrong. Business wise price isnt king. The wasted R&D costs of the PS Eye are gona concern shareholders. And the lack of support p*ss off people who purchse the Eye.

Sony tried to play the short game. The fact that Xbox One had 400% more Preorders than Xbox 360 show Microsoft did a great job. If not for the initial DRM debacle it could have been alot more.

Xbox One is priced almost identical to 360 launched. I can get just as many games at Xbox One launch as I did with the 360 in Dec 2005.

Kinect will always sell with every Xbox One.

Preorders are up on previous gen, Price roughly the same. Next generation features abound.

Tell me again why Microsoft would remove it for a Sku? 

Because its gonna get outsold massivley by PS4 in the first 2 years, they will be going for a budget sku within that time frame. Just like Sony had to do with PS3.

Ps3 launched at £425 thats just a fact, you clearly got ripped off in plymouth if you paid £500. You can check that fact quite easily google is your friend.



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IsawYoshi on 09 October 2013
selnor1983 said:
IsawYoshi said:
The new kinect looks awesome, but skyping during playing ain't gonna sell me on it.



Making tutorials or playing MMO's on Xbox One is gonna be so easy and seemless. Forget playing normal games and skyping. Skyping and playing WOW on PC is awkward, and can be slow as hell.

This is revolutionary for MMO's, multiplayer team tactics in FPS's etc. Or clan meetings, where everyone can see each other.

And its guarenteed everyone will have it.

Next generation is gonna be awesome.

The only problem is that I don't play MMO's, and I rarely play FPS's. :p Voice chat is enough for me, I think having a person take up a part of my screen is just going to be annoing. Then again, I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know. I might end up loving it.



selnor1983 on 09 October 2013
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:

WTF?

PS3 launched in Plymouth UK for 500GBP. Xbox 360 was 400 GBP.

Xbox One is nearly 100 quid cheaper than PS3 launched for.

No your wrong. Business wise price isnt king. The wasted R&D costs of the PS Eye are gona concern shareholders. And the lack of support p*ss off people who purchse the Eye.

Sony tried to play the short game. The fact that Xbox One had 400% more Preorders than Xbox 360 show Microsoft did a great job. If not for the initial DRM debacle it could have been alot more.

Xbox One is priced almost identical to 360 launched. I can get just as many games at Xbox One launch as I did with the 360 in Dec 2005.

Kinect will always sell with every Xbox One.

Preorders are up on previous gen, Price roughly the same. Next generation features abound.

Tell me again why Microsoft would remove it for a Sku? 

Because its gonna get outsold massivley by PS4 in the first 2 years, they will be going for a budget sku within that time frame. Just like Sony had to do with PS3.

Ps3 launched at £425 thats just a fact, you clearly got ripped off in plymouth if you paid £500. You can check that fact quite easily google is your friend.

Sorry I was inculding a game with the PS3. Since Xbox One you get one free.

Even then, PS3 's preorders were lower than Xbox Ones.

I wouldnt be so sure about Ps4 outselling even at a lower price point. 360 outsold PS3 because it had better games in its first 3 years. Fact on Metacritic average over first 3 years.

Bioshock for example didnt release on Ps3 till much later. Many big games werent on the PS3 early on. That drove lots of people to 360.

Xbox One has what many people call one of the best launch lineups ever. The whole first year. Even my Super Nintendo didnt have that many high quality big games.

Think alot of you are gonna be shocked. Alot of the preorders numbers is to do with lack of hardware.

At Game in the UK you can only now get an Xbox One preorder on Phase 4. Thats after Christmas. I got in early in May. My friend preordered last week. His reciept says Phase 4. Which means delivery arrives or is expected to arrive on January 6th.

Demand is very high for Xbox One.

There will be no Kinectless Sku. That would be like burning the Xbox One's next generation right there.



Xenostar on 09 October 2013
selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:

WTF?

PS3 launched in Plymouth UK for 500GBP. Xbox 360 was 400 GBP.

Xbox One is nearly 100 quid cheaper than PS3 launched for.

No your wrong. Business wise price isnt king. The wasted R&D costs of the PS Eye are gona concern shareholders. And the lack of support p*ss off people who purchse the Eye.

Sony tried to play the short game. The fact that Xbox One had 400% more Preorders than Xbox 360 show Microsoft did a great job. If not for the initial DRM debacle it could have been alot more.

Xbox One is priced almost identical to 360 launched. I can get just as many games at Xbox One launch as I did with the 360 in Dec 2005.

Kinect will always sell with every Xbox One.

Preorders are up on previous gen, Price roughly the same. Next generation features abound.

Tell me again why Microsoft would remove it for a Sku? 

Because its gonna get outsold massivley by PS4 in the first 2 years, they will be going for a budget sku within that time frame. Just like Sony had to do with PS3.

Ps3 launched at £425 thats just a fact, you clearly got ripped off in plymouth if you paid £500. You can check that fact quite easily google is your friend.

Sorry I was inculding a game with the PS3. Since Xbox One you get one free.

Even then, PS3 's preorders were lower than Xbox Ones.

I wouldnt be so sure about Ps4 outselling even at a lower price point. 360 outsold PS3 because it had better games in its first 3 years. Fact on Metacritic average over first 3 years.

Bioshock for example didnt release on Ps3 till much later. Many big games werent on the PS3 early on. That drove lots of people to 360.

Xbox One has what many people call one of the best launch lineups ever. The whole first year. Even my Super Nintendo didnt have that many high quality big games.

Think alot of you are gonna be shocked. Alot of the preorders numbers is to do with lack of hardware.

At Game in the UK you can only now get an Xbox One preorder on Phase 4. Thats after Christmas. I got in early in May. My friend preordered last week. His reciept says Phase 4. Which means delivery arrives or is expected to arrive on January 6th.

Demand is very high for Xbox One.

There will be no Kinectless Sku. That would be like burning the Xbox One's next generation right there.


u were including a fictional £75 game vs a download title you cant sell and is only for day 1 customers

The reason it outsold was not dut to meta scores, it was the fact it was £100 cheaper and played all the same games, it really is that simple for post day 1 consumers, if ones cheaper and has 90% of the same games, thats the one to buy. 



selnor1983 on 09 October 2013
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:

WTF?

PS3 launched in Plymouth UK for 500GBP. Xbox 360 was 400 GBP.

Xbox One is nearly 100 quid cheaper than PS3 launched for.

No your wrong. Business wise price isnt king. The wasted R&D costs of the PS Eye are gona concern shareholders. And the lack of support p*ss off people who purchse the Eye.

Sony tried to play the short game. The fact that Xbox One had 400% more Preorders than Xbox 360 show Microsoft did a great job. If not for the initial DRM debacle it could have been alot more.

Xbox One is priced almost identical to 360 launched. I can get just as many games at Xbox One launch as I did with the 360 in Dec 2005.

Kinect will always sell with every Xbox One.

Preorders are up on previous gen, Price roughly the same. Next generation features abound.

Tell me again why Microsoft would remove it for a Sku? 

Because its gonna get outsold massivley by PS4 in the first 2 years, they will be going for a budget sku within that time frame. Just like Sony had to do with PS3.

Ps3 launched at £425 thats just a fact, you clearly got ripped off in plymouth if you paid £500. You can check that fact quite easily google is your friend.

Sorry I was inculding a game with the PS3. Since Xbox One you get one free.

Even then, PS3 's preorders were lower than Xbox Ones.

I wouldnt be so sure about Ps4 outselling even at a lower price point. 360 outsold PS3 because it had better games in its first 3 years. Fact on Metacritic average over first 3 years.

Bioshock for example didnt release on Ps3 till much later. Many big games werent on the PS3 early on. That drove lots of people to 360.

Xbox One has what many people call one of the best launch lineups ever. The whole first year. Even my Super Nintendo didnt have that many high quality big games.

Think alot of you are gonna be shocked. Alot of the preorders numbers is to do with lack of hardware.

At Game in the UK you can only now get an Xbox One preorder on Phase 4. Thats after Christmas. I got in early in May. My friend preordered last week. His reciept says Phase 4. Which means delivery arrives or is expected to arrive on January 6th.

Demand is very high for Xbox One.

There will be no Kinectless Sku. That would be like burning the Xbox One's next generation right there.


u were including a fictional £75 game vs a download title you cant sell and is only for day 1 customers

The reason it outsold was not dut to meta scores, it was the fact it was £100 cheaper and played all the same games, it really is that simple for post day 1 consumers, if ones cheaper and has 90% of the same games, thats the one to buy. 

360 didnt have the same games. It had blockbusters Ps3 didnt have. Alot of them.

And I dont know what you think you know about Xbox One, but your very wrong bud. They are hard copies.





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Xenostar on 09 October 2013
selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:

WTF?

PS3 launched in Plymouth UK for 500GBP. Xbox 360 was 400 GBP.

Xbox One is nearly 100 quid cheaper than PS3 launched for.

No your wrong. Business wise price isnt king. The wasted R&D costs of the PS Eye are gona concern shareholders. And the lack of support p*ss off people who purchse the Eye.

Sony tried to play the short game. The fact that Xbox One had 400% more Preorders than Xbox 360 show Microsoft did a great job. If not for the initial DRM debacle it could have been alot more.

Xbox One is priced almost identical to 360 launched. I can get just as many games at Xbox One launch as I did with the 360 in Dec 2005.

Kinect will always sell with every Xbox One.

Preorders are up on previous gen, Price roughly the same. Next generation features abound.

Tell me again why Microsoft would remove it for a Sku? 

Because its gonna get outsold massivley by PS4 in the first 2 years, they will be going for a budget sku within that time frame. Just like Sony had to do with PS3.

Ps3 launched at £425 thats just a fact, you clearly got ripped off in plymouth if you paid £500. You can check that fact quite easily google is your friend.

Sorry I was inculding a game with the PS3. Since Xbox One you get one free.

Even then, PS3 's preorders were lower than Xbox Ones.

I wouldnt be so sure about Ps4 outselling even at a lower price point. 360 outsold PS3 because it had better games in its first 3 years. Fact on Metacritic average over first 3 years.

Bioshock for example didnt release on Ps3 till much later. Many big games werent on the PS3 early on. That drove lots of people to 360.

Xbox One has what many people call one of the best launch lineups ever. The whole first year. Even my Super Nintendo didnt have that many high quality big games.

Think alot of you are gonna be shocked. Alot of the preorders numbers is to do with lack of hardware.

At Game in the UK you can only now get an Xbox One preorder on Phase 4. Thats after Christmas. I got in early in May. My friend preordered last week. His reciept says Phase 4. Which means delivery arrives or is expected to arrive on January 6th.

Demand is very high for Xbox One.

There will be no Kinectless Sku. That would be like burning the Xbox One's next generation right there.


u were including a fictional £75 game vs a download title you cant sell and is only for day 1 customers

The reason it outsold was not dut to meta scores, it was the fact it was £100 cheaper and played all the same games, it really is that simple for post day 1 consumers, if ones cheaper and has 90% of the same games, thats the one to buy. 

360 didnt have the same games. It had blockbusters Ps3 didnt have. Alot of them.

And I dont know what you think you know about Xbox One, but your very wrong bud. They are hard copies.


There codes sorry to break it to ya. Thats a misleading sales image



Saeko on 09 October 2013

For me its a bad choice, i have buy all console since atari 2600 ^^ and its probably the first console i wont buy in my life because of kinect.

I have buy 360 + kinect, and wii, and i just hate alternate controle. and pay for something i don't like, i cannot.

I don't like much wii U for same reason, but they will have some exlusive jrpg, so i will end up buy her but i really doubt xbox one will have any exclusive jrpg this gen ^^

But its no hate, just my taste & opinion :)



binary solo on 09 October 2013
Zappykins said:
zorg1000 said:
One thing I dont understand is when people talk about Skyping while playing a game as a selling point. To me that would just be distracting and I feel like thats extremely rude and disrespectful to not stop playing ur game so u can talk to a friend/family member.

With that said, I do feel like Kinect has alot of potential and have no problem with it being bundled.

I do see your point.  Plus how could you foccus on both?  One would suffer.

I think more the point is skyping with people you are playing with.  There are times when it would be nice to have seen some of the people I was playing Warcraft with (well the ones I knew in real life anyway.)

Do you need Kinect for that? All you need is a microphone. You don't really want video chat when you're playing do you? I don't. A lot of features that articles associate with Kinect don't actually need Kinect, it's just that MS chooses to use Kinect as the way of using said feature on the Xb one.



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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

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selnor1983 on 09 October 2013
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:

WTF?

PS3 launched in Plymouth UK for 500GBP. Xbox 360 was 400 GBP.

Xbox One is nearly 100 quid cheaper than PS3 launched for.

No your wrong. Business wise price isnt king. The wasted R&D costs of the PS Eye are gona concern shareholders. And the lack of support p*ss off people who purchse the Eye.

Sony tried to play the short game. The fact that Xbox One had 400% more Preorders than Xbox 360 show Microsoft did a great job. If not for the initial DRM debacle it could have been alot more.

Xbox One is priced almost identical to 360 launched. I can get just as many games at Xbox One launch as I did with the 360 in Dec 2005.

Kinect will always sell with every Xbox One.

Preorders are up on previous gen, Price roughly the same. Next generation features abound.

Tell me again why Microsoft would remove it for a Sku? 

Because its gonna get outsold massivley by PS4 in the first 2 years, they will be going for a budget sku within that time frame. Just like Sony had to do with PS3.

Ps3 launched at £425 thats just a fact, you clearly got ripped off in plymouth if you paid £500. You can check that fact quite easily google is your friend.

Sorry I was inculding a game with the PS3. Since Xbox One you get one free.

Even then, PS3 's preorders were lower than Xbox Ones.

I wouldnt be so sure about Ps4 outselling even at a lower price point. 360 outsold PS3 because it had better games in its first 3 years. Fact on Metacritic average over first 3 years.

Bioshock for example didnt release on Ps3 till much later. Many big games werent on the PS3 early on. That drove lots of people to 360.

Xbox One has what many people call one of the best launch lineups ever. The whole first year. Even my Super Nintendo didnt have that many high quality big games.

Think alot of you are gonna be shocked. Alot of the preorders numbers is to do with lack of hardware.

At Game in the UK you can only now get an Xbox One preorder on Phase 4. Thats after Christmas. I got in early in May. My friend preordered last week. His reciept says Phase 4. Which means delivery arrives or is expected to arrive on January 6th.

Demand is very high for Xbox One.

There will be no Kinectless Sku. That would be like burning the Xbox One's next generation right there.


u were including a fictional £75 game vs a download title you cant sell and is only for day 1 customers

The reason it outsold was not dut to meta scores, it was the fact it was £100 cheaper and played all the same games, it really is that simple for post day 1 consumers, if ones cheaper and has 90% of the same games, thats the one to buy. 

360 didnt have the same games. It had blockbusters Ps3 didnt have. Alot of them.

And I dont know what you think you know about Xbox One, but your very wrong bud. They are hard copies.


There codes sorry to break it to ya. Thats a misleading sales image

Sorry dude you are right. I have just seen the small print on the box. I stand corrected bud.

My bad Bro.



binary solo on 09 October 2013
selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:

WTF?

PS3 launched in Plymouth UK for 500GBP. Xbox 360 was 400 GBP.

Xbox One is nearly 100 quid cheaper than PS3 launched for.

No your wrong. Business wise price isnt king. The wasted R&D costs of the PS Eye are gona concern shareholders. And the lack of support p*ss off people who purchse the Eye.

Sony tried to play the short game. The fact that Xbox One had 400% more Preorders than Xbox 360 show Microsoft did a great job. If not for the initial DRM debacle it could have been alot more.

Xbox One is priced almost identical to 360 launched. I can get just as many games at Xbox One launch as I did with the 360 in Dec 2005.

Kinect will always sell with every Xbox One.

Preorders are up on previous gen, Price roughly the same. Next generation features abound.

Tell me again why Microsoft would remove it for a Sku? 

Because its gonna get outsold massivley by PS4 in the first 2 years, they will be going for a budget sku within that time frame. Just like Sony had to do with PS3.

Ps3 launched at £425 thats just a fact, you clearly got ripped off in plymouth if you paid £500. You can check that fact quite easily google is your friend.

Sorry I was inculding a game with the PS3. Since Xbox One you get one free.

Even then, PS3 's preorders were lower than Xbox Ones.

I wouldnt be so sure about Ps4 outselling even at a lower price point. 360 outsold PS3 because it had better games in its first 3 years. Fact on Metacritic average over first 3 years.

Bioshock for example didnt release on Ps3 till much later. Many big games werent on the PS3 early on. That drove lots of people to 360.

Xbox One has what many people call one of the best launch lineups ever. The whole first year. Even my Super Nintendo didnt have that many high quality big games.

Think alot of you are gonna be shocked. Alot of the preorders numbers is to do with lack of hardware.

At Game in the UK you can only now get an Xbox One preorder on Phase 4. Thats after Christmas. I got in early in May. My friend preordered last week. His reciept says Phase 4. Which means delivery arrives or is expected to arrive on January 6th.

Demand is very high for Xbox One.

There will be no Kinectless Sku. That would be like burning the Xbox One's next generation right there.

Sorry to burst your bubble but 360 only outsold PS3 in one year: 2008. Every other full year PS3's been on the market it outsold 360.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix