I never said that though. I didn't say they were obligated. I'm just saying they have no say in it because they've really never been business partners with Nintendo even during the cube days when other devs were going multi-plat and when Nintendo was still in the graphics race.

I'll reiterate they really have no say in the matter. The choice is theirs of course, but their opinion is invalid.

Just Dance mate, Just Dance.

Can't deny the importance of that title, both for Nintendo and for Ubisoft.

What's to talk about? Just like sales, 3rd party games are nonexistent.

Moderated,

-Mr Khan

You know, there are some reasons why some 3rd parties might consider the successor to the highest-selling home console of the 7th gen a viable business option on the long run. You know, when you keep an open mind. The OP actually mentions that.

Bethesda was never going to develop for a Nintendo home console.  Don't kid yourself. 

I wanted to believe Nintendo on how they promised third party support for Wii U (they made SO much money with Wii/DS). But it seems they thought to have the same kind of success with Wii, by only focusing on casuals and little on core gamers. The casuals left to those stupid smartphones/tablets, and core gamers have nothing exciting to buy for Wii U. Iwata did some good things, but this kind of approach for a next generation console is unacceptable. Only die-hard Nintendo fans (like me) will buy the Wii U eventually, but I won't recommened it to anyone else.

It is already over for Wii U because Iwata thinks to attract third party's eventually by proving Wii U third party exclusives can indeed be succesful. Actual quote from Iwata:

"By giving sales momentum to Wii U through our first-party software in the short run and seeing success from third-party software within this year, we would like to dramatically change the situation of Wii U next year and beyond." That's the plan, anyway.

I don't think the 5K TW101 did will convince third party to develop for Wii U. This quote is basically saying (in the case third party exclusives are succesful) that it will take at least 2 years for new third party games to come, because it takes so much time to make a game. But nobody IS making a game and nobody WILL be making a game. I'm a big Ninty fan, but Iwata did a terrible TERRBILE job with Wii U, unbelievable. It is time to change approach (fire Iwata?)

Anyone who agrees with a sentiment like the bolded above, is either pushing an agenda or does not know what they are talking about. Which one is it in this case I wonder?

Bethesda has the right to demand whatever they want, say whatever they please, develop for whom ever they want, hold whatever opinion they want. But when they go on record telling Nintendo what they should have done was to listen more to them they sound like Carly Ray Jepsen telling the Beatles how they should have made music. In other words, they make themselves look ridicolous. Which as you point out, is perfectly within their rights.

I'm going to side with Seece here. On the console front, Nintendo has yet much to prove. The Wii came in as a hit out of the park after the N64 and cube's struggles. Meanwhile, Nintendo's handheld lines continue to boom (with some struggles in the West for the 3DS).

Having said that, the Wii line needs to prove its success with the U, so it's not a cemented victory. Also, the twins combined sold more than the Wii and much of the market is not found on the Wii line. Examples are GTA, AC and COD. Though AC and COD are on the Wii line now, their sales are incomparable to the sales of their analogues on the twins.

When it comes to the home console front, Nintendo's victory is still under challenge.

I agree with the post after that though.

The matter is a lot more simple than most people here assume.

Videogame market is business and business is just about money. Nothing more.

Companies won´t jump their productions on a console if they can´t be sure that its install base can, at least, provide realistic chances of matching their sales predictions and give them the profit they want.

It doesn´t have nothing to do with technology. Companies can work out these technical matters  just fine. Activision, Disney, Tt Games, Ubisoft, Namco don´t seem to have faced big problems porting their PS3/360 games to the WiiU so far, despite minor features.

The WiiU currently faces the same problem Vita faces: it doesn´t have many 3rd-party games because the install base is small and increases in a slow pace. Smaller install base = smaller sales opportunities for 3rd parties.

So much that both PS4 and XboxOne, despite having good launch line-ups, currently don´t have much for the future - despite enhanced versions of games already scheduled for their previous generations. Companies will wait to see how sales go before jumping on new projects, exactely what they´re doing right now with the WiiU.