A guess that i feel comfortable with. Japan Fw should be above 100k

The thing about Yakuza is that it sells 500-900k on an established console. It's a lot but it's not hotcake (or sushi) material.

Knack may be made by Japan studio but I can't see it sell more than 400k (and that's being generous). For reference the best Ape Escape sold 300k. Another better example is puppeteer, which sold very poorly and is also a new IP like Knack.

The 3rd party idea, Euphoria, which you brought up works in the West, but in Japan there must be something big changing over there from a Sony-3rd parties relationship point of view for that to really change.

I'm mostly agreeing with the idea that the numbers shipped are limited. It will probably do better than the U over the course of its 1st year, but I think this is front-loaded and that the numbers won't be as big as some of us think, and I believe that mostly due to PS3 SW and HW figures. It doesn't add up to hotcakes for the PS4.

Thanks ethomaz for a good thread, where anyone can discuss sales, no matter if it's a Nintendo, Sony or MS thread. Thanks to all who understand that and to all who don't, I hope you will soon.

But most of all, I apologize for not setting the right example in this thread, I was upset and said things I regret. I will do better, I promise.