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People living in wealthy industrialized nations in general live in a bubble. That's what was so amusing about that "99% vs 1%" protest thing last year. Most of the world's population lives in abject poverty, and the homeless in the US have it a lot better than the homeless in the third-world.

People protesting that they are the "99%" as they hold their iPhone 4S and wear designer jeans and drive a car, have a job, and are well fed. Give me a break. Try living in Kenya or Ecuador. Not every country has public education for all citizens K-12, no-questions-asked immediate medical care even if you don't have any money, public transportation, clean air, clear water, and a Bill of Rights.

Everyone in this forum is in the 1%, and yes, the propaganda on our news and from our government is criminal, to say the least. To go on television and threaten to "shut down" the government is such a farce. We haven't even had a budget since President Obama took office in January 2009. All we've had are these thrown-together continuing-resolutions to keep things funded. So what if the government is shut down for a few weeks? All urgent matters and the government employees who take care of them will remain on the job. And the rest will go on unemployment. Their paychecks are all paid for with our income taxes anyway, so what's the difference either way?



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My friend has an uncle locked up in North Korea awaiting the death penalty for trying to start a church.

I'm absolutely appalled and offended by the OP.



So you watched a movie and played a video game and that makes you an expert on world affairs and the use of propoganda in a country you don't live in. Got it.



Panama said:
Wait...Olympus Has Fallen and White House Down were propaganda? I went and saw them so I could laugh at Americans.


I'm an American and I'm about as open minded of a person as you will ever find.  I realize that this world has a lot of problems (as does the US) simply because humanity is flawed.  The one thing that gets me is how much hate we get from other countries until they need something.  Everyone runs to good old Uncle Sam when they're in need of help, and we're usually very willing to help.

Personally, I don't hate anyone just because of where they live, but it does say a lot about a person that does.



Stop hating and start playing.

Does it count as propaganda if nobody actually watches it.

Those two movies bombed didn't they?

 

As for North Korea... even China is backing off North Korea.  If the US ever does attack Korea, China will proably be the ones to supply the info, because regional leaders would be too edgy about china doing so.


Then again, that's probably why in the end it will be china who will attack.   I sort of feel like they're backing NK largely just to be able to use them as a show of force victim nobody else cares about.



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American propaganda I definitely admit is horrible... I don't even watch the news anymore because I don't trust any of it... I am one of those people who has completely lost faith in his own governments ability to tell the truth.

It's also a lot more than just the government, regular companies manipulate everything. I remember a quote from Satoru Iwata recently. He said something along the lines of "I am making business decisions which will ensure Nintendo's long term success. Some people would rather I jump onto the Iphone and other platforms, but this would only profit us in the short term. " That is exactly what is going on in the world today, all these companies don't care about the long term anymore and they are destroying their own companies in the process. Then when the next president comes along, we have a THQ fiasco.



Considering most of the world consumes tons of American media the propaganda must be affecting them too. Yes, a very few wealthy control ideas, but this is nothing new.



I'm lol'ing that you only realised that now.

Gears of War, for example is full of american military clichés. I tend to stay away of such games. The best thing you can do is not buy them/watch them, because they are mainly aimed at the US market. Be it games, series or movies.



Whitefire said:
Icy-Zone said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-25HOVRtaMk

 

Video of Western propaganda. Idk how to embed.

 

 


Around the 14 minute mark, did the documentary say that US political people should be arrested because the army killed civilians? Why would that be under their control?

I didn't replay the segment, but I remember it saying that certain political leaders should be tried as war criminals for giving the go-ahead on an unsanctioned war based off false premises, which resulted in the death of civilians. Sort of like if I thought my friend killed my dog, so I ended up killing him, when in fact the dog just died of natural causes. You wouldn't arrest military personnel over this.

Vetteman94 said:
Icy-Zone said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-25HOVRtaMk

 

Video of Western propaganda. Idk how to embed.

 

 

I remember when I watched that a few years ago,  I couldnt stop laughing throughout the whole thing.   There may be propaganda in the USA (Fox News) and alot of people are duumb enough to fall for it, but nothing tops this video.   

Although I did here rumors that this was satire,  never found out if it was though.

This was created by a New Zealander with the help of a South Korean (the psychologist). Last I heard the South Korean is in prison for the video, while they're hoping to imprison the New Zealander. It's an interesting video nonetheless, and it touches on a lot of sensitive issues that people don't want to address.



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You have a ton of delusion tied to NK.



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