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KylieDog said:
 

Plenty of PS3 games early in the gen were notably worse than 360 games, unlike WiiU owners people who owned PS3s didn't use minor things as excuses to not buy a game.

Should we expect no sales for Watch Dogs/ACIV on PS3/360 because there are better versions out there?  If that is your WiiU excuse it is a poor one.

Try blame yearly releases for AC even though is the single player campaign that is the reason people buy it and that is new every single time, it isn't CoD where the MP is the main draw and that barely changes.  WW HD couldn't even manage a new dungeon.  What is Watch Dogs excuse?

Actually, I am a PS3 owner and, to give you an example, I am still undecided whether to buy Bayonetta's PS3 version or to wait and see if I will eventually buy a X360 or simply hope they will re-release it on Wii U.

People are free to buy an inferior version of a specific game if they want; but personally, I have a backlog so I am in no hurry to buy a newly released game and I when I do buy it, I want to play the best version available. I do value my gaming experiences and I am nitpicky about them, too bad if that's a poor excuse to you.

Finally, yes my analogy with AC was a bad one; I heard that the gameplay actually changes quite a bit from game to game. Anyhow, I just am really repulsed by how Ubisoft handles their franchises and it's gonna take a very unique game from them to get me interested in buying their stuff. As for Watch Dogs; the cellphone/hacker kind of thing is just not a theme I am interested in. When it comes to WW HD, complain all you want about no new dungeon, but go read some reviews, quite a few says it's the best HD remaster ever released.



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RolStoppable said:
Osc89 said:
RolStoppable said:

You might laugh, but it's the truth. I was quite shocked when pezus and outlawauron confirmed to me that nowadays patches are the norm for pretty much every major game.

He's right to laugh. NSMBU, Nintendo Land and Pikmin 3 have all required patches, and for Pikmin 3 it was day one! And lets not even get into the OS, which after a large slow potentially bricking day one update and a second large update is still unfinished. The idea Nintendo is setting any standards in this respect is laughable.

I don't think any of those patches were for bug fixes like it's common practice on other consoles. Thus none of those patches were required. What did they add? Pro Controller support for NSMBU, no idea for Nintendo Land and I had already played through Pikmin 3 before connecting online (which didn't work before day 1 anyway, because the servers weren't available).

Although it's true that Nintendo is going down a dangerous path with the Wii U. The system as a whole feels as sloppy as a 360 or PS3 which I consider one of the reasons why the system doesn't sell. And if even Nintendo fans aren't buying it, then I see it as perfectly justified to say that people who are used to Nintendo products have higher standards (I didn't say that Nintendo is setting high standards, I said that costumers have high standards). But just because the Wii U is trash doesn't mean that any of the current costumers should be obligated to sink even lower and buy third party games. Also, Splinter Cell is an example of a game that got a patch to work properly (about 1.6GB IIRC), Nintendo software has yet to fall to such a level.


NSMBU has had 3 updates already, so while they aren't releasing broken games (yet) they are now comfortable releasing unfinished games. Whether or not Nintendo customers who don't own the Wii U have higher standards is irrelevant, as they obviously aren't going to be buying Wii U games. And anyone who owns a Wii U can't claim to have high standards anymore. This is a system releasing 6-7 years after the PS3 & 360, yet markedly slower with promised features still missing.



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Osc89 said:

NSMBU has had 3 updates already, so while they aren't releasing broken games (yet) they are now comfortable releasing unfinished games. Whether or not Nintendo customers who don't own the Wii U have higher standards is irrelevant, as they obviously aren't going to be buying Wii U games. And anyone who owns a Wii U can't claim to have high standards anymore. This is a system releasing 6-7 years after the PS3 & 360, yet markedly slower with promised features still missing.

You lost all credibility here; is that some kind of joke ? What kind of logic and generalization is that ?



Any multi-platform game that is released, if given the choice I buy on Wii U or not at all. If It is just left out I don't, I pre-ordered splinter-cell and canceled it when I found out it was gimped. I have pre-ordered watch dogs, and will get AC as well for the Wii U. I almost canceled my origins pre-order until I found Amazon selling it $10 less (which is now official) and also a $10 gift card included.

I am a PC Gamer / Nintendo and most every FPS I play would be on the PC, but since Activision gave Ghosts to the Wii U, pre-ordered that there, now I hear its gimped, and I promise If I don't get it for the Wii U, I just won't buy it.

As for Rayman, another game I plan to get sooner or later, though I would have been happier with it earlier in the year when I wanted something new and interesting to play.

If 3rd parties won't support Nintendo, I won't support them, and when I want to play their games, well I guess a good ol Steam Sale will end up giving me that game at a fraction of the cost.



RolStoppable said:
Osc89 said:

NSMBU has had 3 updates already, so while they aren't releasing broken games (yet) they are now comfortable releasing unfinished games. Whether or not Nintendo customers who don't own the Wii U have higher standards is irrelevant, as they obviously aren't going to be buying Wii U games. And anyone who owns a Wii U can't claim to have high standards anymore. This is a system releasing 6-7 years after the PS3 & 360, yet markedly slower with promised features still missing.

What did those updates add? That goes for all three games.

As for the other point, the hardware has to be bought to get to the games. In the Wii U's case that means to bite the bullet and buy bad hardware, but that in no way means that standards for software drop at the same time.


NSMBU added Miiverse functionality, then fixed the Miiverse functionality, then added compatiblity with DLC & Pro controller. Nintendo Land had bug fixes and loading screen improvements. Pikmin 3 added Miiverse, rankings and SpotPass. The fact that they created SpotPass for their games shows they are embracing the "ship now fix later" philosophy.

I don't know if standards for software will drop. Will I put up with broken games if they turn into Nintendo games after a few months of patching? I don't know. I now know I will put up with an unfinished console, but that isn't something I wanted to find out.



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oniyide said:
Cobretti2 said:
pezus said:
curl-6 said:


It's still gimping to give one version of a game unequal treatment. They treat Wii U owners like second classs citizens and then wonder why their games don't sell to Nintendo gamers.

Batman will be $10 cheaper on WiiU though. Let's see if that neutralizes the gimping. 


not in aus. ontop of that, we don't get the two special editions so why woudl I buy it on Wii U when I can get the nice cool limited edition on PS3.


you wouldnt.

but i have a general question. If someone has a PS3 or 360 even, why complain. they already have access to the version they want. The only people who should be complaining are Wii u owners outside the US who want to play Batman and judgint by the sales id say aint a lot of them


Well the first one did some neat little things with the gamepad.  So it would come down to those features or the PS360 version. However when you can tell the publisher isn't even trying with their release packages and/or it is missing online (personally I don't care) it just is doomed to failure from the start as a lot of those one console owners take things way too personally.

Rayman Legends is a good example of this, the delay killed the game. Ubisoft become the enemy of the Nintendo core for that mess. Most of them didn't stop to think, well hang on in return Ubisoft annouced, splinter cell, ACIV and Watch Dogs. To me a short delay is a fair trade off for getting decent support on your system of choice.

Once Ubisosft ends WIi U support people without a doubt will group them with EA lol.



 

 

Luck said:
Osc89 said:
 

NSMBU has had 3 updates already, so while they aren't releasing broken games (yet) they are now comfortable releasing unfinished games. Whether or not Nintendo customers who don't own the Wii U have higher standards is irrelevant, as they obviously aren't going to be buying Wii U games. And anyone who owns a Wii U can't claim to have high standards anymore. This is a system releasing 6-7 years after the PS3 & 360, yet markedly slower with promised features still missing.

You lost all credibility here; is that some kind of joke ? What kind of logic and generalization is that ?


It's an unfinished console by Nintendo's own admission. It's what we have to put up with to play Nintendo games right now, and buying a Wii U shows that unfinished products are no longer beneath us. It would be hypocrisy to bash Ubisoft for large patches and own a Wii U.



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Doesnt everyone know we were beta testers?



RolStoppable said:
You've heard it, everyone. Buy Ubisoft games to show them that halfassed is good enough for you.

Rol this isn't directed at you since you don't complain, but to the others:

Don't complain about third party games not on Nintendo platforms.  Money talks, if you don't want their games, don't complain after the fact that they're not there anymore.



Osc89 said:
Luck said:
Osc89 said:
 

NSMBU has had 3 updates already, so while they aren't releasing broken games (yet) they are now comfortable releasing unfinished games. Whether or not Nintendo customers who don't own the Wii U have higher standards is irrelevant, as they obviously aren't going to be buying Wii U games. And anyone who owns a Wii U can't claim to have high standards anymore. This is a system releasing 6-7 years after the PS3 & 360, yet markedly slower with promised features still missing.

You lost all credibility here; is that some kind of joke ? What kind of logic and generalization is that ?


It's an unfinished console by Nintendo's own admission. It's what we have to put up with to play Nintendo games right now, and buying a Wii U shows that unfinished products are no longer beneath us. It would be hypocrisy to bash Ubisoft for large patches and own a Wii U.


I'm completely fine with that. I love Wii u



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