Bolded is the part of my post that accounts for your objection.

Obviously COD is a cultural phenomenon, but that doesn't mean Wii owners have played it before. And grouping Assassin's Creed with it is laughable. "Any self-respecting gamer has heard of AC..." really? Not everyone who plays video games is as well-informed as the users here on this website. Hell, the Wii U has over 3 million owners. How many of them are here on VGChartz? ...Maybe a hundred? And not even all of THEM are so well-informed as you seem to think.

I'll own up to this, I know plenty about Assassin's Creed. Never played it. Not even for a second. Why should I have? I only own Nintendo consoles. I go out of my way to play games that really grab my attention (inFamous, Puppeteer, Halo, MGR: R) at a friend's house. Assassin's Creed has never been that game. And Call of Duty? I may have played it in passing at some point. But it didn't leave a strong impression on me.

Just because a series is popular doesn't mean people who don't even have the means to play it know all about it and want to get right on that. Assassin's Creed is not on COD levels of popularity. Splinter Cell isn't even close. Tom Clancy is more likely to be recognized as an author by uninformed gamers, and there are a LOT of uninformed gamers on ALL consoles.

This effect was seen in reverse when Just Dance was released on PS3/360 for the first time in 2011. Any self-respecting gamer has heard of Just Dance, right? So naturally its sales on those two platforms should have been right up there with the Wii version in sales. But they didn't even come close. 80% of JD3 sales were from the Wii version. And it only got worse; sales declined across the board, but even so, the PS3 and 360 versions of JD declined in market share that year, while the Wii version increased and the Wii U version joined the fray -- this was in 2012, quite a while after the Wii had stopped being the juggernaut it was in 2009-2010, and just as the PS3 and 360 were coming off their best year for both hardware and software in 2011.

Now suppose someone was telling you Ubisoft was going to pull support from PS3 because Just Dance underperformed. LOL, right? But that's Wii U owners (or simply Nintendo gamers) and Assassin's Creed/Splinter Cell/Mass Effect/COD/Darksiders/etc. Suddenly they're available to us and we're supposed to just instantly care without the publishers telling us why we should.

Ratchet and Clank also says hi

dont mean jack shit.

that doesnt make it look good. JD4 needed to be on MULTIPLE platforms to beat out the original entry that was released on ONE? naw thats not good. Even if you do that it still sold less than JD3, across the board even with the extra WII u SKU. If thats not a decline i dont know what is. I dont see JD 2014 doing better it might be overshadowed by PS4 and xbone release and even those are getting their own versions but i dont see them doing great on those systems.

I honestly just want to use this discussion as an excuse to link to this video, don't read too much into it.

yes because sony and microsoft from the start ALWAYS planned to gave 8gb of ram. This was a last hour decision. we all seen the articles where PS4 started with 4 then microsoft had to match the 8.

Also do you magically thing Nintendo would get 3rd party support? It wouldn't gurantee it. THe fact is they gambled on the controller again and that csot them the money. Just like the kinect has pushed up the price of the xbox one.

Bolded is the part of my post that accounts for your objection.

Obviously COD is a cultural phenomenon, but that doesn't mean Wii owners have played it before. And grouping Assassin's Creed with it is laughable. "Any self-respecting gamer has heard of AC..." really? Not everyone who plays video games is as well-informed as the users here on this website. Hell, the Wii U has over 3 million owners. How many of them are here on VGChartz? ...Maybe a hundred? And not even all of THEM are so well-informed as you seem to think.

I'll own up to this, I know plenty about Assassin's Creed. Never played it. Not even for a second. Why should I have? I only own Nintendo consoles. I go out of my way to play games that really grab my attention (inFamous, Puppeteer, Halo, MGR: R) at a friend's house. Assassin's Creed has never been that game. And Call of Duty? I may have played it in passing at some point. But it didn't leave a strong impression on me.

Just because a series is popular doesn't mean people who don't even have the means to play it know all about it and want to get right on that. Assassin's Creed is not on COD levels of popularity. Splinter Cell isn't even close. Tom Clancy is more likely to be recognized as an author by uninformed gamers, and there are a LOT of uninformed gamers on ALL consoles.

This effect was seen in reverse when Just Dance was released on PS3/360 for the first time in 2011. Any self-respecting gamer has heard of Just Dance, right? So naturally its sales on those two platforms should have been right up there with the Wii version in sales. But they didn't even come close. 80% of JD3 sales were from the Wii version. And it only got worse; sales declined across the board, but even so, the PS3 and 360 versions of JD declined in market share that year, while the Wii version increased and the Wii U version joined the fray -- this was in 2012, quite a while after the Wii had stopped being the juggernaut it was in 2009-2010, and just as the PS3 and 360 were coming off their best year for both hardware and software in 2011.

Now suppose someone was telling you Ubisoft was going to pull support from PS3 because Just Dance underperformed. LOL, right? But that's Wii U owners (or simply Nintendo gamers) and Assassin's Creed/Splinter Cell/Mass Effect/COD/Darksiders/etc. Suddenly they're available to us and we're supposed to just instantly care without the publishers telling us why we should.

they are platformers and they work, so your question was answered and you were wrong.

First of all, I understand that the comment in the OP comes from someone associated with Nintendo, NOT with Ubisoft. This isn't a threat, it's a warning, and it's a justified one.

Nonetheless, my own comment directed at most of the conversation in this thread is this:

I think people are a little confused about Nintendo's role in selling third-party games on their system. Let me offer an example: suppose you found out that, say, Terminal Reality (makers of such gems as Kinect Star Wars and TWD: Survival Instinct) was making a new IP for PS4 at launch. How likely would you be to buy it versus Knack, Drive Club, Killzone, etc?

This is how many Nintendo gamers feel when a company called "Ubisoft" (gee, I remember that name! They made Far Cry Vengeance, Raving Rabbids, Nitrobike, Red Steel, Just Dance, and Michael Jackson the Experience for the Wii! Those were some quality titles... LOW quality titles) is on the Wii U at launch with some game you've never heard of called "Assassin's Creed"... and also Rabbids Land, ZombiU, ESPN Sports Connection, Marvel Avengers: Battle for Earth, and the yearly Just Dance installment.

Lots of companies treat Nintendo consoles like this. They neglect them for years, then expect to receive a warm reception when they suddenly show up for the party. When Assassin's Creed III was released on Wii U, it wasn't as though the whole user base had been clamoring for it since the series was created; it was more like none of them had ever even heard of it before, or at least hadn't played it and didn't know what to expect from it. It was as though the game had suddenly appeared from the void. Imagine if a game called Killer Habits 5 was suddenly released on PS3/360, made by a company you recognize as a huge producer of shovelware, and you had never heard of this series before. Are you gonna buy it? Hell no. It is the publisher's duty to market its product, to inform the customers and convince them to purchase their game. Activision can't just put Call of Duty on Wii U and expect it to sell an easy 8 million like it does on other consoles. They built up those sales on PS3/360 with years of consistent, annual, high-quality releases and tons and tons of marketing. They do nothing to market COD on Nintendo systems. COD4, the game that really made the series take off, wasn't released on Wii until 2009, two years too late. Modern Warfare 2 Skipped the console entirely.

You see, Ubisoft (and Activision) have achieved their sales by nurturing their releases on Sony and Microsoft platforms. They have established popularity on those platforms through their own hard work. Now they expect that popularity to simply be waiting for them on Nintendo consoles, or worse, they expect Nintendo to go out of their way to establish that popularity for them so they don't have to do any actual work building brand recognition and TRUST with a new group of customers.

Long story short, if Ubisoft wants their games to sell well on Nintendo consoles, they had better give Nintendo console owners a better reason to buy their games than, "or we won't give you any more games." Because at this stage, most Nintendo gamers don't even know what they would be missing. It's Ubisoft's job to TELL them what they'd be missing, and they're not doing that. They actually got it right with Rayman Legends, offering the Challenge App for free for several months. This built goodwill between Ubisoft and Wii U owners and established that brand recognition and trust I mentioned between them. And that's why Legends appears to be selling better (or at least roughly as well) on Wii U than on two platforms with 20 times its install base.

yes, im sticking to my self respecting gamer. Not neccersarily playing the game, but definately hearing about it. AC isnt some niche title like SMT. It sells million of copies and there have always been decent to great ads for it. Any one who would call themselve a gamer has HEARD of it.  You dont need to be on forums to know what it is. I didnt bring up SC because that series has NEVER done great on Ninty consoles and isnt anywhere near as popular as you have stated.

JD is not a good argument and ill tell you why. and why you are missing the point. First of all JD has declined on ALL systems. JD4 has sold much worst on Wii than even the original JD that is a decline. Plus yes PS360 doesnt sell alot, but the beauty of JD is it doesnt NEED to on those systems. They already make their money plus more on Wii version, whatever they make from the other platforms is cocaine money for them. ANd it costs them almost nothing to port since they are just uprezzed versions of a Wii game. The argument doesnt make sense because there are a few other UBI games that DO sell on PS360 alot. AC, FarCry, Rainbox six just to name a few. THe thing about WIi U is NOTHING is selling. everything so far on Wii U has underperformed now i ask why would you support a system where all your games are failing.

So no its not the same thing because PS360 Ubi games (the "right") ones sell on those systems.