81mph is faster than 111km/h

my post wasn't to say that you can't compare the pics because of the speed, my point was that it is useless to compare the games and i just picked something useless to talk about from both pics. one game is a forza horizon like arcade racer and th eother is a simulation with 60fps. they try to reach totally different goals. for forza 5 a  framerate at 60fps is more important than any graphics. for driveclub graphics are very important hence why they are ok with 30fps and why they even said that the guy who has to decide it prefers shiny graphics above 60fps.

and like you said last year, you prefered forza 3 above 4 because they didn't sacrifice gameplay and physics for graphics but now you seem to prefer driveclub where they put graphics above even better gameplay and physics? yeah...

it would be even wrong to compare forza 4 with forza horizon.

This will be the most overrated game of the next gen.

Considering the technical issues in the demo, I think they made the right decision in reducing some of the things that will hardly be noticeable.

Since some people do seem interested in discussing the subject of the thread, I won't lock it but any further off-topic discussion will result in moderation.

Frame rate > Graphics

I would rather have a game not as good looking with solid 60fps than a game that has better graphics at 30fps or jumping around. Makes me want to vomit with motion sickness

Killzone downgrade yesterday and Ryse today. As we get closer to launch, these consoles aren't stacking up it seems.

Please stop trolling. How was Killzone downgraded exactly?

Fixed for accuracy.

Polys-gone!

Better performance is a good trade off. I hate a game that doesnt run well but looks pretty.