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I think the technical progress has actually made games worse because devs have no limitations anymore and hence they can afford to be lazier and less creative. For example I was playing Hitman 2016 and the mission levels were so uninteresting and samey, you are given a huge map and building where you have to walk hundreds of meters but there is no wonder and no sense of exploration and no intrigue because what you see is what you get, na mean? Whereas in the older Hitman games the levels were divided into hubs, you never knew what was ahead of you. Another modern game that I play Dirt4 has procedurally generated tracks and the driving physics and handling is so boring and unexciting, no wonder Dirt2 multiplayer is still very active, people want to have fun, not be put to sleep.



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Obviously games are getting better. Storylines, sounds, graphics, presentation, splitscreen and online play, cinematics. Much more variery in plays styles, 2d, top down, side scroller, 3d, open world, VR. How can anybody actually argue that they are getting worse? Sure if you have been gaming since (like me) the 80s or earlier thay might be a bit stale by now. But the experiences games provide now are much more than they were back then. Must be great to be like 8 years old and play a game like Horizon, or GT sport with almost photo relastic graphics and sound rather than hitting a square ball back and forth with two lines on a black screen.



Nogamez said:
Obviously games are getting better. Storylines, sounds, graphics, presentation, splitscreen and online play, cinematics. Much more variery in plays styles, 2d, top down, side scroller, 3d, open world, VR. How can anybody actually argue that they are getting worse? Sure if you have been gaming since (like me) the 80s or earlier thay might be a bit stale by now. But the experiences games provide now are much more than they were back then. Must be great to be like 8 years old and play a game like Horizon, or GT sport with almost photo relastic graphics and sound rather than hitting a square ball back and forth with two lines on a black screen.

That's exactly what my 9 year old is doing. He has no interest in older games, even Minecraft hardly gets any love anymore. Fortnite, Apex legends, ARK, Subnautica, Horizon, Spiderman, BotW, Mario Oddyssey. Online multiplayer gets the preference as he's always in party chat with his friends from school and they all play together. Terraria is the only 'retro' game they all like.

It's different. I used to go over to my friend's house to play games. Nowadays they all simply get online in party chat. They have their discord channel when playing on a laptop, even when playing with his brother in the other room lol. My 7 year old mainly plays roblox and iPad games, Fortnite is still a bit too frustrating for him. He's more into VR than the older one though.

There's so much choice, so many free to play games, so easy to interact with friends online. The time of passing the controller and watching the other play is long gone. Stupid me kept most of my old games in case my kids wanted to play them. The older they get, the less interest in ps2, gc, xbox 360, ps3. Only the WiiU still gets some love for Mario kart.



If you had asked me in 2016, then I would have definitely said games were getting worse. Really gaming was in a huge slump. The Switch has revitalized modern gaming for me though. I see gaming getting better on the Switch. I'm still not very optimistic about the other platforms though.



spurgeonryan said:
That is why you are bored^

Next you will stop gaming alltogether to collect antiques and stamps.

Well, I've got to admit that I'm starting a collection of stamps and coins. I'm truly getting old.

landguy1 said:
green_sky said:
There is more variety now than there ever was. No matter what kind of gamer are you their is something for you out there. There are more price points too for people interested in playing games catering to wide spectrum of budgets. Also more devices can play said games than ever before.

I agree, the biggest difference is the sheer amount of games available to play.  When i was a lot younger, we had an atari 2600 and an Intellivision and a coleco vision.  There were only a few games for each system.  It was even more expensive back then to be a gamer.  So we traded games with friends and family to get more choice.  Either way, there are more games for either the XB1 or the PS4 at launch than a lot of the systems had in their first year or 2 back then. 

Today, gamers can play not only the 10's of thousands of older games that now exist, but they have 100's more each year to play. 

This is truly the golden age of gaming.

I agree. The most important part of my gaming experience is having different types of games to play. Although we can say that we've got too many shooters and open world games today, in the late 90's I was fed up with platforms. Mario, Sonic, Batman, Contra, Spiderman, Whatever, Metroid, Castlevania, they were all platforms.

That's why I started to like games more after PS1 got out. I still like a few SNES games, but I wouldn't play 100 of them at all.

Mr Puggsly said:
badgenome said:
Yes. The problem is that when you're a kid you have a very limited frame of reference and are therefore much easier to impress.

I think we become more and more jaded every year. You don't even have to go as far back as childhood.

That's true, as we get older and old, we start losing enthusiasm. I guess it's also a sort of decade thing. From 20-29 you have more energy and enthusiasm for new things and such, but from 30-39, things start feeling odd. You don't have the same energy and the same free time and you just have to become more selective. From 40 on, thing's will get even harder.

I believe in the end the only thing that we really enjoy and never get tired of is having a good meal. Food is the only pleasure that goes with us close to the end.

(and of course the spiritual pleasures, when we believe so)

LudicrousSpeed said:

They're better than ever and I would go as far as to say modern games are factually superior to the simpler games of old.

The difference is one you played as a naive full of life and imagination little kid, thus you feel a special connection. The other you play as a jaded adult beaten down by the world and just waiting on sweet sweet death. So there's less emotional attachment there.

Gran Turismo, for example, used to be my favorite gaming franchise. I have tons of memories of sitting around with friends and my older brother building a stable of bad ass cars and racing each other. But factually, racers are much better nowadays. One of my favorite NES games was Guardian Legend. But give me Rogue Legacy over it any day of the week. etc etc

edit, holy fuck this thread is from 2013 and I even already replied with my first account. I've been here six years? Got damn

Yes, I agree. Even if you don't like shooters and open-world games, there are still simple games today that are far superior than NES and SNES stuff.

Rab said:
think-man said:

I love gaming to bits but I find im constantly trying to recapture those experiences I had when I was a kid. Alot of recent games impress me but they dont come close to providing that same magic as the games I grew up on. Maybe its just part of growing up? 

 

Are games getting better? I don't think so...

 

 

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I'm not sure. Our younger selves have lots of problems too, while our old selves can be wiser, more tolerant and more selective. Youngsters waste too much time doing useless stuff. They've got no idea how short is life. They truly believe they'll be strong, free and healthy until they're 80.

Cobretti2 said:
Movies are the same.

The issue is we grew up seeing all this done for the first time.

We are in a generation where we started in an analogue world where we played outside and now living in a digital world and using it.

The generation before us are hesitant to use it (not all but most). The generation after us is all they know.

We have seen the greatest changes and been wowed by them essentially. Now it is mostly evolution and can feel like you seen this before. Yer it looks prettier but its been done.

I personally disagree about movies, but I will not argue with you. It's just my experience.

I've watched hundreds of films. I've a list of more than 1000 films that I've watched and given stars to. The golden age of films is really crystal clear to me. I can pick up a film from the 50's and really enjoy it, while today, it's been very hard to find a good film that can beat the ones from the 40's, 50's and 60's that I've watched.



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I mostly agree with what others have said. As a kid, we had smaller frames of reference and the freshness of these new experiences offered wow moments that are difficult to capture in the evolved yet more polished experiences of today.

That said, Bloodborne was a current gen game (the only one to be honest) that gave me the same sense of wonder, enjoyment and satisfaction that I had when I was a kid. I've enjoyed other games this gen, sure, Spider-Man being another solid entry just last year, but the feeling of accomplishment that older games gave seems to be lost on the newer games.

So even though it's rare to find those jewels which wow you, I think it's possible. They just have to tick the boxes which were ticked when you were wow'd as a kid. For me, that's a feeling of immersion, fluidity in gameplay, and a sense of accomplishment.



0D0 said:

That's true, as we get older and old, we start losing enthusiasm. I guess it's also a sort of decade thing. From 20-29 you have more energy and enthusiasm for new things and such, but from 30-39, things start feeling odd. You don't have the same energy and the same free time and you just have to become more selective. From 40 on, thing's will get even harder.

I believe in the end the only thing that we really enjoy and never get tired of is having a good meal. Food is the only pleasure that goes with us close to the end.

I'm not sure. Our younger selves have lots of problems too, while our old selves can be wiser, more tolerant and more selective. Youngsters waste too much time doing useless stuff. They've got no idea how short is life. They truly believe they'll be strong, free and healthy until they're 80.

I personally disagree about movies, but I will not argue with you. It's just my experience.

I've watched hundreds of films. I've a list of more than 1000 films that I've watched and given stars to. The golden age of films is really crystal clear to me. I can pick up a film from the 50's and really enjoy it, while today, it's been very hard to find a good film that can beat the ones from the 40's, 50's and 60's that I've watched.

So true about the age thing. Yet you keep the delusion going as long as possible, you are as young as you feel. It's bullshit of course. I'm 45, all nighters pretty much take me out for the next day now, I need my sleep. Injuries take much longer to heal, be careful with how 'young' you act. I still waste too much time doing useless stuff though!

Movies are selective. I've watched thousands of movies as well, I have over a thousand of movies on dvd and blu-ray sitting downstairs. There are only some of the 50's and 60's though, most are 70's to naughties, or rather the movies I grew up with until about 35 when I started to lose interest in movies. It's indeed very hard today to find a good film that beats the thousands I have watched.

It's the same with books. I've read tons of sci-fi and fantasy and now feel like I've read all the god stuff already, which just can't be true. The problem is more that when I start reading a book nowadays, I'm at risk of falling asleep 15 pages later :)



It's hard to say - but at least when you bought games in the day they were complete and finished. No patches were possible and no opportunities to sell you more crap down the line. People are more tolerant of games being released and still needing work to be complete. No Man's Sky anyone?



Nogamez said:
Obviously games are getting better. Storylines, sounds, graphics, presentation, splitscreen and online play, cinematics. Much more variery in plays styles, 2d, top down, side scroller, 3d, open world, VR. How can anybody actually argue that they are getting worse? Sure if you have been gaming since (like me) the 80s or earlier thay might be a bit stale by now. But the experiences games provide now are much more than they were back then. Must be great to be like 8 years old and play a game like Horizon, or GT sport with almost photo relastic graphics and sound rather than hitting a square ball back and forth with two lines on a black screen.

How many examples of games simply not working properly (Assassin's Creed Unity, Mass Effect Andromeda, Arkham Knight, Battlefield 4, ect) or release without any substantial content until later release (No Man's Sky, Sea Of Thieves, Evolve, Anthem, Fallout 76, ect). Not to mention the cost of entry is pretty substantial in modern times being games now cost ~$90 if you want all the content, if not more. Multiple special editions are becoming a new norm, so you can't even go buy a special edition and feel like you got everything, because most the time you don't (such as BOTW collectors edition has different things than Master's Edition). How many games can you on day 1 sit down and play all the content and it actually work. Very, very few.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is a pretty big case for games not being as good as they used to be.

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DonFerrari said:
Yes games are getting better and that is why I keep buying new games and anxious for new generations.

But yes part of growing is accumulating experiences, so you won't get as surprised as before.

This sums it up perfectly.