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Zappykins on 24 September 2013

I am curious, but yet to be impress. So far, it seems they want to do exactly what others are doing. Ok, perhaps they can get some better graphics, great - more frames per second! But they have to be rather significant to see a difference. Perhaps some more Skyrim Mods?

They are expected to announce a controller later this week. I will be curious to see what they do. Microsoft has already set the bar as far as I am concerned on controllers (touch pad on PS4 is nice, but it's not *action triggers.*)

If they can truly innovate cool, but if this is someones wrath against Microsoft, I have yet to see the reason why, I as a customer, should buy in. Other than some niche market, like LPs are today.

Next announcement in a few days.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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Xenobot on 24 September 2013
walsufnir said:
Xenobot said:
walsufnir said:
And then you are confronted with a big problem: drivers. Like every other Linux out there (no problem for me, my lspci shows almost only intel ;)).

 

Linux has fare more drivers built in then all windows + all macs combined. My linux supports all hardware out of the box on my Sony Vaio.

No drivers problem here. In addition - steam needs only ATI/Nvidia drivers. I think they can handle this.


I know but this doesn't change the problem with *new* hardware. Sure, it's nice to have driver support for old hardware but especially new (gaming) hardware is a problem. Like with every other Linux out there. This doesn't change if it works for me and you.

So true. Maybe steam can change this. After all you only need to influence AMD, Intel and Nvidia. (motherboards and graphics cards)



misterchoc90 on 24 September 2013
allenmaher said:
Anfebious said:
What does this mean? Steam for Linux? What is so good about tihs?


They use Ubuntu Core 12.04 LTS as the basis of thier distribution.  This means a complete opensource robust OS underneath on which you can run just about anything.  On top of that they have added big picture and some steam logos.

No viruses.  Rock solid. Minimal overhead. No cost to you.  Really well supported (bugs fixed very quickly).  Very secure.

Downsides... while NVIDIA drivers are great, AMD are hit and miss but improving, Intel is quickly aproaching par.  On most other fronts, networking, CPU performance, disk performance, things are better than the windows world.  Some esoteric audio hardware may not function at peek efficiency (they dropped a hint about fixes in the works).

You can build your own and download and install the software.  Multiple manufacturers can build a steambox... competition in console providers.

This!

Man, this is so awesome. I've been using Lubuntu a lot (Ubuntu with LXDE. The Unity interface sucks IMO) and I only use Windows whenever I have to play video games. I have a dual partition, with the Lubuntu partition being my secondary one (around 50 gigs or so). Maybe now I won't need a Windows partition, but maybe I'll keep it around as a secondary partition just to run Unity (the game engine) with Visual Studio :)



Player2 on 24 September 2013
tuscaniman99 said:
We already know they wont be getting any EA games. Add to this fact that playing in the living room with a controller means no multiplayer gaming unless you want to get your ass handed to you. This will have no impact whatsoever.

Yes, because online multiplayer is the only multiplayer that exists, we already know that Steam OS won't support keyboard & mouse, plus RTS and FPS are the only genres with multiplayer.



dedis GR on 24 September 2013

I expected more than that...



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Xenostar on 24 September 2013

im up for a streaming box, make it less than a £100 and ill get it day 1, PC games in the lounge would be cool.



vlad321 on 04 October 2013
allenmaher said:
vlad321 said:
allenmaher said:
Anfebious said:
What does this mean? Steam for Linux? What is so good about tihs?


They use Ubuntu Core 12.04 LTS as the basis of thier distribution.  This means a complete opensource robust OS underneath on which you can run just about anything.  On top of that they have added big picture and some steam logos.

No viruses.  Rock solid. Minimal overhead. No cost to you.  Really well supported (bugs fixed very quickly).  Very secure.

Downsides... while NVIDIA drivers are great, AMD are hit and miss but improving, Intel is quickly aproaching par.  On most other fronts, networking, CPU performance, disk performance, things are better than the windows world.  Some esoteric audio hardware may not function at peek efficiency (they dropped a hint about fixes in the works).

You can build your own and download and install the software.  Multiple manufacturers can build a steambox... competition in console providers.

Linux is not "very secure" nor is it "Rock Solid" and if you mean Ubuntu and not SteamOS, also not "Really well supported."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux  Note where the NSA security enhancements were merged kernel 2.6.x several kernels ago which is why it is used by big data, big science, and big government... Security.  These are not the only examples  lots of other security measures have been mainlined.  By support I mean bugs get patched quickly especially security vulnerabilities, not there is someone on the other end of the phone waiting to take your call... though you can pay for that.   SteamOS which is an offshoot of ubuntu core will get all upstream security patches asap... because it is based on a Long Term Service distribution it will do so for years before they need to upgrade it.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/202452/why_linux_is_more_secure_than_windows.html

Access control policies? THAT'S what you define as security, you must have scrapped the barrel pretty hard for that.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

allenmaher on 05 October 2013
vlad321 said:
allenmaher said:
vlad321 said:
allenmaher said:
Anfebious said:
What does this mean? Steam for Linux? What is so good about tihs?


They use Ubuntu Core 12.04 LTS as the basis of thier distribution.  This means a complete opensource robust OS underneath on which you can run just about anything.  On top of that they have added big picture and some steam logos.

No viruses.  Rock solid. Minimal overhead. No cost to you.  Really well supported (bugs fixed very quickly).  Very secure.

Downsides... while NVIDIA drivers are great, AMD are hit and miss but improving, Intel is quickly aproaching par.  On most other fronts, networking, CPU performance, disk performance, things are better than the windows world.  Some esoteric audio hardware may not function at peek efficiency (they dropped a hint about fixes in the works).

You can build your own and download and install the software.  Multiple manufacturers can build a steambox... competition in console providers.

Linux is not "very secure" nor is it "Rock Solid" and if you mean Ubuntu and not SteamOS, also not "Really well supported."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux  Note where the NSA security enhancements were merged kernel 2.6.x several kernels ago which is why it is used by big data, big science, and big government... Security.  These are not the only examples  lots of other security measures have been mainlined.  By support I mean bugs get patched quickly especially security vulnerabilities, not there is someone on the other end of the phone waiting to take your call... though you can pay for that.   SteamOS which is an offshoot of ubuntu core will get all upstream security patches asap... because it is based on a Long Term Service distribution it will do so for years before they need to upgrade it.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/202452/why_linux_is_more_secure_than_windows.html

Access control policies? THAT'S what you define as security, you must have scrapped the barrel pretty hard for that.

Here is a longer list:

https://www.linux.com/learn/docs/727873-overview-of-linux-kernel-security-features/

http://www.secpoint.com/Top-10-Most-Secure-Operating-Systems.html

https://www.novainfosec.com/2013/07/09/whats-the-most-secure-os/

http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/operating-systems/3293430/secure-linux-for-remote-access-designed-by-us-military/

http://www.zdnet.com/linux-triumphant-chrome-os-resists-cracking-attempts-7000012331/

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/linux-distros-paranoid-secure-distros-si/

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/linux-is-more-secure-but-not-invulnerable/

Read a few, no OS is perfectly secure (they all have users and users suck), but linux is pretty damn good. (So is OpenBSD)



vlad321 on 05 October 2013
allenmaher said:
vlad321 said:
allenmaher said:
vlad321 said:
allenmaher said:
Anfebious said:
What does this mean? Steam for Linux? What is so good about tihs?


They use Ubuntu Core 12.04 LTS as the basis of thier distribution.  This means a complete opensource robust OS underneath on which you can run just about anything.  On top of that they have added big picture and some steam logos.

No viruses.  Rock solid. Minimal overhead. No cost to you.  Really well supported (bugs fixed very quickly).  Very secure.

Downsides... while NVIDIA drivers are great, AMD are hit and miss but improving, Intel is quickly aproaching par.  On most other fronts, networking, CPU performance, disk performance, things are better than the windows world.  Some esoteric audio hardware may not function at peek efficiency (they dropped a hint about fixes in the works).

You can build your own and download and install the software.  Multiple manufacturers can build a steambox... competition in console providers.

Linux is not "very secure" nor is it "Rock Solid" and if you mean Ubuntu and not SteamOS, also not "Really well supported."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux  Note where the NSA security enhancements were merged kernel 2.6.x several kernels ago which is why it is used by big data, big science, and big government... Security.  These are not the only examples  lots of other security measures have been mainlined.  By support I mean bugs get patched quickly especially security vulnerabilities, not there is someone on the other end of the phone waiting to take your call... though you can pay for that.   SteamOS which is an offshoot of ubuntu core will get all upstream security patches asap... because it is based on a Long Term Service distribution it will do so for years before they need to upgrade it.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/202452/why_linux_is_more_secure_than_windows.html

Access control policies? THAT'S what you define as security, you must have scrapped the barrel pretty hard for that.

Here is a longer list:

https://www.linux.com/learn/docs/727873-overview-of-linux-kernel-security-features/

http://www.secpoint.com/Top-10-Most-Secure-Operating-Systems.html

https://www.novainfosec.com/2013/07/09/whats-the-most-secure-os/

http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/operating-systems/3293430/secure-linux-for-remote-access-designed-by-us-military/

http://www.zdnet.com/linux-triumphant-chrome-os-resists-cracking-attempts-7000012331/

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/linux-distros-paranoid-secure-distros-si/

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/linux-is-more-secure-but-not-invulnerable/

Read a few, no OS is perfectly secure (they all have users and users suck), but linux is pretty damn good. (So is OpenBSD)


I am just giong to go ahead and just quote a paragraph from one of your links

"And because risk depends a lot on other factors independent of the operating system itself, the answer to the question is usually “it depends.”"

WHOA! Who could have seen that one coming, right?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

dahuman on 05 October 2013

So hot..... I want to get out of Windows very badly and this seems to be a great first step, first thing I'll convert is my new laptop and say good bye to shitty Windows 8.