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BenKenobi88 said:
Stillwell said:
BenKenobi88 said:
I'm just gonna ignore this thread...anytime America is mentioned, it just turns into an American bash-fest all day. Because yes, we're all the same and think alike, and our country defines us...so it's all good.

Do you think there might be a reason for that? If you think you are different from the Americans everyone dislikes, aren't you angry?


You've got no right to judge people you've never met...don't tell me who I am. Have you even been to America? It's always fine and dandy to bash American people without considering that 300 million people are not hive minded, and are decent people. I don't go bashing Polish people for being stupid.

I don't like the stupid people in this country, but you've apparently never been around a decent community, of which there are probably more than you realize. We don't all get drunk, watch Nascar, and beat our wives.

Sure I'm angry about the stupid choices our government has made...that was before I could vote, and literally could not do anything about it.  I'm more angry at people who make assumptions about a mass of people...it's called discrimination and it's bullshit. 


 /salute ben



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Bingoo said:
BenKenobi88 said:
Stillwell said:
BenKenobi88 said:
I'm just gonna ignore this thread...anytime America is mentioned, it just turns into an American bash-fest all day. Because yes, we're all the same and think alike, and our country defines us...so it's all good.

Do you think there might be a reason for that? If you think you are different from the Americans everyone dislikes, aren't you angry?


You've got no right to judge people you've never met...don't tell me who I am. Have you even been to America? It's always fine and dandy to bash American people without considering that 300 million people are not hive minded, and are decent people. I don't go bashing Polish people for being stupid.

I don't like the stupid people in this country, but you've apparently never been around a decent community, of which there are probably more than you realize. We don't all get drunk, watch Nascar, and beat our wives.

Sure I'm angry about the stupid choices our government has made...that was before I could vote, and literally could not do anything about it. I'm more angry at people who make assumptions about a mass of people...it's called discrimination and it's bullshit.


/salute ben

couldn't have said it better myself.

 



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L.C.E.C. said:
who do you think could have done a better job? Gore, Kerry?

I would have Bush over any other bastard who ran against him.

Gayness is wrong.
Abortion is wrong (except for rape). You shouldn't be Fucking if you're not married (especially if you're under 18). And if you are, you should be able to face the natural consequences.

I'm glad he is a moral president (unlike the last democrat we had in the White House as president.

Democratic supporters are never fuckin happy. If you want change, wait for the next election. Don't bitch and bash. It is impossible to make everyone happy.

If Kerry had won the election, we would be DUCKING BOMBS RIGHT NOW. HE WANTED TO NEGOTIATE WITH AL-KEIDA YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS, DUMBASS.

You should really watch this movie, along with everyone else...

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/



I know I'm late to this thread.

@ Montana

Andrew Jackson comes to mind when I think of terrible presidents. Trail of Tears?

@ Legend

You do realize that the reason that Katrina was so horribly handled was the incompetence of my former governor Kathleen Blanco. She halted all help for days. She was the problem at that issue.



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L.C.E.C. said:
who do you think could have done a better job? Gore, Kerry?

I would have Bush over any other bastard who ran against him.

Gayness is wrong.
Abortion is wrong (except for rape). You shouldn't be Fucking if you're not married (especially if you're under 18). And if you are, you should be able to face the natural consequences.

I'm glad he is a moral president (unlike the last democrat we had in the White House as president.

Democratic supporters are never fuckin happy. If you want change, wait for the next election. Don't bitch and bash. It is impossible to make everyone happy.

If Kerry had won the election, we would be DUCKING BOMBS RIGHT NOW. HE WANTED TO NEGOTIATE WITH AL-KEIDA YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS, DUMBASS.

gayness is wrong so is abortion? Now you bring in that it fucking is wrong?

Im under 18 and ive had sex, and guess what no consequences. Just because your beliefs state this does not mean they are right, you are completely intertwining religion and politics, not everyone has the same religion of you.

Moral is a relative term. Who says he is moral when we go into iraq for oil when you have starving children all around the world, and you have REAL countrys that are REALLY under dictatorship.

ROFL at the kerry comment, you have your head way to far up your ass my friend.



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outlawauron said:
I know I'm late to this thread.

@ Montana

Andrew Jackson comes to mind when I think of terrible presidents. Trail of Tears?

@ Legend

You do realize that the reason that Katrina was so horribly handled was the incompetence of my former governor Kathleen Blanco. She halted all help for days. She was the problem at that issue.

I heard that jackson actually wanted to negotiate and actually liked the indians, but western pioneers bent on "claiming what is rightfully theirs" and politics with the same idea pressured jackson



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outlawauron said:
I know I'm late to this thread.

@ Montana

Andrew Jackson comes to mind when I think of terrible presidents. Trail of Tears?

@ Legend

You do realize that the reason that Katrina was so horribly handled was the incompetence of my former governor Kathleen Blanco. She halted all help for days. She was the problem at that issue.


Yeah, i'd put Andrew Jackson there too... however historically Andrew Jackson is actually considered one of the best presidents despite the trail of tears and his parnoia over the government banking system.

Reason being... Jacksonian Democracy. Most if not all historians give him a huge pass on the depression, and the ignoring the supreme court and the slaugtering indians because of Jacksonian Democracy which allowed every free white man a vote. Instead of just the free white men who had land.

While the Trail of Tears was Jacksons fault. I believe it was Van Buren that actually carried it out.


Jackson's usually in the low teens when it comes to presidential ratings.  Sometimes higher.



Bingoo said:
outlawauron said:
I know I'm late to this thread.

@ Montana

Andrew Jackson comes to mind when I think of terrible presidents. Trail of Tears?

@ Legend

You do realize that the reason that Katrina was so horribly handled was the incompetence of my former governor Kathleen Blanco. She halted all help for days. She was the problem at that issue.

I heard that jackson actually wanted to negotiate and actually liked the indians, but western pioneers bent on "claiming what is rightfully theirs" and politics with the same idea pressured jackson


 The Supreme Court said "You can't move these Indians".  Jackson passed the law the court ruled on, and  then later forcibly moved them defying the surpreme court.

You'd be hard pressed to find a time where the 3 branch democracy was in more jeopardy since then.



Solidar said:
 

You should really watch this movie, along with everyone else...

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


Quit pushing that propoganda on us...the link has already been provided.

Why don't you read some reviews of that movie instead:

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/06/jay-kinney-reviews-z.html

I could barely watch that whole movie. Asserting that Christianity (my religion by choice) is under control of the uber-rich in order to control the masses is the most preposterous thing I've ever heard. And there's no proof of any of the 9/11 or other high-up government conspiracies.

Zeitgeist is largely a movie meant to feed foreigners misleading ideas about America so that they feel better about themselves.



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